Suprise, surprise, DVLA Bullshi*

[killa]

I’ve commit an offence.
So I sold my ZX7R to a guy called Steve for £400. I sent off the V5 he had the green slip, job done.
I don’t have his details, I’ve lost his number from my phone as i had my old one replaced.

I’ve NEVER received a letter from the DVLA in regard to any of my previous bikes sold, to say that the buyer is now the new registered keeper.
About a fortnight ago, i receive a letter explaining that someone has asked to be the new registered keeper of the bike (i’m assuming Steve). It explained that if i ignore the letter then they will accept that they are the new keeper of the vehicle. So i ignored it.
Received a letter from them a few days ago now asking for some money. I’ve committed an offence.

I’m not paying it, as they haven’t stuck to the rules either. I didn’t think you ever get a letter explaining someone is now the keeper of the vehicle i sold. So why the fuk should i pay for them not receiving a V5 from me??

Any advice welcome on how to tackle this one?
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

Sickpup's probably the man to speak to. He's had numerous dealings with their ineptitude. Personally I'd just ring them and tell them that you sent off the V5 to them x number of weeks ago, I assume you got proof of postage?
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[P.]

Going to court on 16th August for this exact "offence."

Not sure how to go about it really, I did what you did, post form and done. Bike wasn't registered to my now home address and I only go the court letter because the occupier knows my brother.

So uh... seems they are picking up on this crap pretty bad as my dad has the same

[jimbothe]

[ace-card]

Just tell them this......

It ain't your problem that yet another one of the governments agencies (i.e Royal Fail) doesn't work properly. Shocking really, seeing as they don't have any other task to carry out other than to deliver letters!! You sent the V5, and if they haven't received it, that isn't your fault, nor is it your problem. W*nkers!!

If they moan, saying you should've sent it recorded delivery, reply "why should I fork out extra money to ensure the delivery of a letter that SHOULD arrive safely under a standard first class stamp? Are you suggesting that the government is sub-standard?!" As the DVLA are essentially the government, this should shut them up in my opinion. In reality, you would send something you cared about as recorded delivery coz we all know how shite the postal system is, but who the f*@k cares about a V5 for a vehicle you no longer own? I reiterate......w*nkers!
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[Hetzer]

As Sickpup has proved in court, all you have to state is you posted the document and at that point your responsibility/liability ended.
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[Zeuky]

I'm a bit lost for what this offence is as I've been in the same situation (Except from the other side) and didn't have anything like this

Bought myself a GS500, back when I passed my test, and I never got a V5 off the chap who allegedly sent it off. Me being a naive prat, I thought it'd be fine if I just had the little green slip (That made it interesting at the Post Office trying to get tax )

Anyways I spoke to the guy who sold it to me. He said he'd sent it off, and then he got the letter stating "If you don't reply to this, then the bike belongs to such n such, yadda yadda" but nothing after that.

Next thing I know, I'm the new registered keeper, so what is it you've done to wrong Mr DVLA?

EDIT: Never mind! Just saw the extra couple of posts ^^ So I'm on the same page now
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[WildGoose]

What exactly are you supposed to have done? You aren't too clear.

Write them a letter, tell them clearly that you filled out the V5 at the time of sale, and duly posted it. Tell them you can prove it. To all intents and purposes, if it was lost in the post or in their postroom, it ain't your problem

You have to be firm with them. It also helps if you are prepared to go all the way, which may mean large legal expenses to yourself. I decided a while back, that I will follow through with my threats to the DVLA, as I am sick and tired of having my time wasted by their haplessness. Though FFS don't threaten legal action unless you are prepared to follow through.

Here is a quote from the arse end of a letter sent by me a while back. Dated 16/10/11.

[dogbot]

Sympathies.

I have to send off 3 V5s and a driving license this week.

What are the chances of it all coming back?

What are the chances of it all coming back unscathed?

[WildGoose]

[sickpup]

Have a look at Pyroforlife's thread here.

[killa]

[Hetzer]

[killa]

[P.]

[waffles]

But you have already informed the DVLA of Steve's address, why would you keep hold of it? FOI requests have proved how much internal mail the DVLA lose each year, its a wonder that anything gets done there. The DVLA cannot stand up in court and win a case based on the fact that they haveen't received the V5 docs when they mislay letters every day. You, however, CAN stand there and say that you posted it on xx/xx/xx and entrusted it to the Royal Mail to deliver and ultimately the DVLA to sort. Yes you could have called them to check that they have received it but you are under no obligation to do so.

Actually, I wonder how many vehicles are on the road that no current keeper details are known.....
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[tatters]

I get all my V5,s back but always with spelling mistake on my second name, also had them chasing me in the past for a CB400N l sold that they did,nt get the V5 for ended up paying the fine at the time, wish l had refused to pay.
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[Marcg868]

I got this crap and went to court back in 2006. Explained I'd done my bit of sending it off and thats all i needed to do. It was sent recorded anyway so was signed for at the other end.

They claim they didn't receive it, i presented this to the bloke in court. He just shook is head and said the DVLA are wasting my time and his time.

Lasted all of 15 mins.
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[weasley]

[Muscle Bike Rider]

They really are bad, it took 2 months for them to update my driving licence with bike entitlement and new photo, everytime I chased them I got a different excuse.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Strictly speaking you have informed them so not committed an offence. The DVLA possibly have committed an offence under the data protection act for not keeping your personal information up to date (if your keepership of the bike is personal info).

All the best

Keith
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