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 Posted: 15:47 - 19 May 2009 Post subject: 33BHP MOTORCYCLE RESTRICTION CERTIFICATE , Any Good ? |
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Hello there, am 18 just past me theory done few lessons and will be doing my practical test soon , i have bought myself a ZXR400, but it needs restricting to 33bhp, but iv heard that the garages charge a hefty price for doing so, so iv found a few options which are cheaper but need your approval to see if there any good,
I was searching ebay and found a guy who made these certificates for £20, you give your bikes model, registration number, frame number and engine number. and you get to cerificates , one for you and one for the insurance. iv read some of the feedback of other people who have bought them and they all say its good a++, you think possible it will Con the insurance ?
Another is buying a restriction kit of ebay for £20-30 , fitting it yourself and getting it dyno'd to say its 33bhp and send the Dyno print out to the insurance?
Cheer's Danny  ____________________ Previous : Aprilia rs 77 ( Crashed ) , Some Crappy 100cc Scooter (sorry) to keep my going.
Now: The Green Machine - ZXR 400 64 BHP : ) |
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Kickstart |
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Hi
Legally there is no need for any certificate. Some insurance companies insist, others don't care. All the law requires is that the bike is under 25kW (33hp), but is so badly worded that no proof is required.
As such a forged certificate might help a bit, but might get you into more trouble should you land up giving it to the police (who know it has no legal standing, and could insist it is tested).
Legally a 2nd hand kit fitted by yourself is just as good as a brand new kit fitted by a dealer at 10 times the price.
All the best
Keith ____________________ Traxpics, track day and racing photographs - Bimota Forum - Bike performance / thrust graphs for choosing gearing |
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Can you actually make one mate cause id buy one , saves alot of money  ____________________ Previous : Aprilia rs 77 ( Crashed ) , Some Crappy 100cc Scooter (sorry) to keep my going.
Now: The Green Machine - ZXR 400 64 BHP : ) |
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Any pics?
When I got my ZXR it had an old kit with it so I got it fitted. Haven't got a certificate though because FI only supply one with a brand new kit. Insurance never asked for one. ____________________ Test Passed 29/01/09 - Restriction Ends - 29/01/11 |
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The Disapproving Brit |
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 Posted: 16:44 - 19 May 2009 Post subject: Re: 33BHP MOTORCYCLE RESTRICTION CERTIFICATE , Any Good ? |
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As said, a blagged cert is only useful to get insurance - the sort of plod who are aware of restrictions are also aware that the certificates mean sod all. Bear in mind that falsely claiming to be restricted to get insurance is fraud, and if you present a forged cert you're killing any defence of ignorance ("I just went with the default options when I got my quote") you might have had, so a safer bet is an insurer who doesn't ask.
Personally, I'd scupper the engine and get it a dyno cert (I think it involves taking out one of the spark plugs but someone will confirm) which shows the bike putting out less than 33bhp. That'll be a legitimate cert for the time it was tested, which will serve most purposes.
Also, don't bother getting more than TPFT cover if you're not going to be restricted - its pointless. If you're fully comp, your insurer will likely refuse to cover damage to your bike when it transpires that its not restricted (and when its time for them to pay you, they suddenly become far more vigilant about that kind of thing).
Theft cover is OK if you did the aforementioned dyno run, since if recovered you can show that it only put out 33bhp at some point before it was stolen.
Third party cover is unaffected regardless of restriction (the law requires the insurer to provide at least this level of cover as long as you have a policy), although if you have an accident that the insurer decides wouldn't have happened had the bike been restricted, they may require you to reimburse them for anything they have to pay out ____________________ Current Bikes: 1983 Honda VF400FD / 2003 Honda VT750 Shadow
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One: You do not need a certificate
Two: Forging a certificate will get you in to deep doodoo if you use it in any way, shape or form
Why are you on BCF asking for a hand with the shovel?  ____________________ A left and a right. A left. Another left and right. An uppercut to the jaw. The fight was over. And so the ranch was saved. The young intern sat by himself in one corner of the coffee shop. He had learned about medicine, but more importantly, he had learned something about life. THE END |
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Nice one cheer's  ____________________ Previous : Aprilia rs 77 ( Crashed ) , Some Crappy 100cc Scooter (sorry) to keep my going.
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A homemade certificate has just as much legal standing as one from FI International.  |
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