DRz400s

[Wave2k]

Lets say my 'friend' is looking at getting some sort of enduro maybe, is the DRz400 a good choice (2002-2004 platish)

He is a lazy bugger and could be doing up to 120 miles in one outing on it, are the service intervals OK ?

also are there any good bikes he can get for around the same money

(under £2k)[/u]
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[Yoko]

You getting me a DRz400 for christmas?
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[tatters]

Very popular bikes from what l,ve seen both in offroad and supermoto style.


review here


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[Wave2k]

its a friend of a friend of a friend, infact its just a street tramp.
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[G]

Service intervals are fine - listed as something like 4k, best to make it a bit shorter if you're giving it some abuse.

I presume you've read my CCM review, if not read it. Then buy a CCM .

For the DRZ, try and go for the E model.

They are pretty decent 'do anything' bikes.

[Wave2k]

CCM uses the same lump doesnt it, so whats the difference between the two apart from lumps?

not /really/ after SM wheels although i wouldnt say no if they came with it
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[EddyJones]

I think the CCM has a slightly better chasis and brakes? Not 100% tho, wait for G

[G]

The CCM has better suspension is the main bit - would cost quite a lot to upgrade the DRZ to CCM levels.

Brakes shouldn't be a big issue for off roading - but do make a difference with the SM wheels on.

However, you can definitely get cheaper DRZs, even considering CCMs with just trail wheels. Look at a similar age though, and often the CCM is a similar price, despite offering more.

[Wave2k]

A look round on ebay and biketrader and a few forums, cant find any 404s in my price range.
a few with the 600cc engine, but also noticed its a rotax engine and my experience with them is eerrrmmm less than satisfactory.
but then again im a right noobie when it comes to offroading would the WP suspention come of use ?
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[G]

I can definitely tell the difference between say my CRM and the Husaberg (same suspension as the CCM) off roading. There will be less of a difference comparing the DRZ, but it should still mean you get that bit plusher ride and may handle jumps etc a bit better too.

The DRZ should do you fine for the mo, though.

[Wave2k]

If one comes up in the near future give me a pm, for around my price range.
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[tony_d123]

If you want to do any serious trail riding make sure you get the "E" model. Forget the "S" unless you just want a road bike.

I rode an "E" with Redtread in the Spanish mountains and they also had a couple of CCM's. Same engine but the CCM's would need a mini service every lunchtime! The E's are almost bullet-proof apart from the well documented output shaft problem. Easily remedied with stainless spacer and new seals.

[G]

[Wave2k]

Ive been reading up on the difference between an S and an E
Longer supframe
about 6 less BHP
Road gearing
road bias tyres
bit more weight
Id probably be happy with an S if it came up at the right price as would i be happy with a ccm404, plus looking about you can get a shed load of bits and bobs for Drzs which is handy.
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[G]

Just the difference in weight will probably make a reasonable difference, so I'd go with the E model of the DRZ over the S given the chance.

[tony_d123]

[G]

Standard CCMs use the DRZ-E engine pretty much as you get it in the DRZ-E as far as I know.
I definitely haven't heard of people having any issues on the CCM in that regards that you wouldn't get on a DRZ-E.

The CC404E has a little more power, but it's basically just had a few 'mods' done that a lot of people do to the DRZ without problems. Ie, the airbox is a bit freer flowing and it's got a freer flowing exhaust on as standard.

[Wave2k]

there lots of S models but not many E models that are within 200 miles really.

Would whacking on an exhaust and bigger sprocket make it slightly simular to an E, with of course knobblier tyres.

Gonna hold out a little longer anyway.
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[Yoko]

[G]

It's the weight that's going to make more of a difference off road.
You don't really need more power than a XR250 has for green-laning, so that shouldn't be an issue.

[lilredmachine]

[Wave2k]

Would me weighing 10 stone make a difference
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[G]

Yes. It will mean it's even harder for you to pick it out of the mud for the tenth time that day, never mind generally muscling it about .

[Wave2k]

lol point taken, hopefully my fitness will help offroad, a bit .
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