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milbourne L Plate Warrior
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Posted: 13:42 - 10 Mar 2008 Post subject: What supermoto...? |
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I no you have probably heard this question a million times, but i will ask it again . Also i understand that i can't buy a bike without test riding etc. i am just here for some background knowledge really... in general my bike knowledge is very good... but supermoto's are where my knowledge is weak.
firstly i will tell you a bit about me... i started riding motobikes when i was 4 on a qr50 and started racing motocross when i was 6, i got to eastern centre and british school boy championship level befor having a big crash and having to stop due to my injuries. I then looked towards road racing aqquired a race spec rgv250... started doing track days and getting some times in, but couldn't find the funds or the sponsors to the dream came to an end.
I passed my bike test 28/04/2006... so soon my restriction has ran out whoop whoop! currently i ride a streetfightered 600 bandit. But now because i also have a car i'm looking more for a toy, a fun bike, than something that is my form of transport and that is why i am here.
There is just a few rules.
I dont want a drz400. i personally think they are flat and guttless, but mayb i am comparing it to my m tech tuned cr125 which was 2 stroke.
No yamaha's its a family tradition .
Has to look aggressive, look like a moto-x bike
i have been browsing and found a couple bikes, links below.
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KTM-525-EXC-SUPERMOTO-2004_W0QQitemZ180222473679QQihZ008QQcategoryZ9926QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HUSQVARNA-TE-570-SUPERMOTO-ENDURO-HONDA-SUZUKI-YAMAHA_W0QQitemZ220209928196QQihZ012QQcategoryZ424QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
or an lc4!
i also thought about a ccm, but they don't look very moto-x bike like
I just want something that is going to be fun, that i can throw around and be semi reliable, i do around 3-4k miles a year and no more than 150miles in a day.
How are parts to get hold of?
What is servicing costs like?
What else is out there?
is you need to no more give me a shout
thanks for your help
milbourne
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G The Voice of Reason
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Posted: 14:20 - 10 Mar 2008 Post subject: Re: What supermoto...? |
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If you don't want 'flat and gutless' then you're going to have to make a sacrifice in either weight or servicing.
(Though the DRZ-SM version is pretty lardy anyway.)
What's your budget?
If you're going for a heavier bike with longer service intervals (around 140kg dry weight), look for:
KTM 625/660 (LC4 based models, but a more go / less weight than the standard LC4s.)
Husky TE610
Converted XR650?
BMW G650 thingy (probably looks wrong for you)
Lighter bikes (110-115kgs) tend to have service intervals listed in hours and be less 'useful' on the road, but serious fun if you actually make use of the lean/lightweight. (Of course 99% of people won't and 99% of the time the 1% that do won't be anyway, but it's all about that 1% ).
Also these should be pretty decent in most cases off road.
KTM 450/525/530 etc
Husaberg 450/550/650 (if you want a seriously 'mad' 4 stroke, go for a big bore on the 650 'berg)
Husky TE510 (think the 570 is just a bigger bore version of this, not 100%)
Parts generally aren't a problem for any of the above.
Servicing will be quite expensive for the lighter 'competition' bikes - from about every 10 hours for an oil change / 60 hours for more major stuff. However newer ones may be a bit better and there may be ways to increase that, for instance by an extra oil radiator.
The CCMs are 'streetmotos' - I've got a 404e and it's nice enough bike, but definitely not got so aggressive power compared to my Husaberg 501e. Weight is a bit up at a listed 120kg. However, it does have 4000 mile service intervals and the relatively low tuned DRZ engine.
The CCM644 (incidentally, if you buy these in Dual sport version they come with more off road looking plastics) is a bit heavier, using the DR650 engine - about the claimed weight of the heavier bikes listed above, but a fair bit less power.
If you like 2 strokes, something like a KTM 300 EXC-E is definitely worth a look. Performance isn't that far off the 525, but it has less weight (105kgs with electric start) and better service intervals. Servicing is generally simpler because it's a 2 stroke.
If you want something /really/ interesting in 2 stroke form, have a look at Maico, who offer up to a 620cc 2 stroke supermoto with claimed weight of 101kgs and a 685 'coming soon'. Don't know much about them, apart from that I want to try one . |
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Posted: 22:13 - 27 Mar 2008 Post subject: |
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Both of those are going to have fairly nasty servicing I believe, as they're both comp' enduro bikes.
If you're looking at that sorta bike, I'd have thought it's worth going for one of the European manufacturers that sell then in supermoto form 'off the shelf' - that way you get suspension, drive train etc setup for supermoto.
And the option of bigger engine sizes - which generally don't make a faster bike, but make an easier to ride and often less-stressed bike.
[edit]Oops, though you were the OP, oh well, my comments still stand anyway [/edit]
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chrisstone Borekit Bruiser
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Posted: 23:31 - 27 Mar 2008 Post subject: |
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i got cr500 they are mad just mad but starting it what a bugger
thats why got new aprilia sxv550 just as fast with electric start still kept cr500 that smell and its a diff sort of rush of power amazing thing love it to bits when it starts...
has any one seen that husky on ebay all carbon and bits think is called noz edition or some thing do you know any thing about them might go buy it this week end its a 570husky looks amazing 5k only seems bargin 109 k about 65bhp a bit of collectors thing i think |
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