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cliff
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 05 Apr 2004    Post subject: Power vavles Reply with quote

I am curious to find out what they are and what they do. Tbh I'm looking for an answer from Kickstart seeing as he has a vast knowledge of 2 squeaks. All help appreciated.

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PostPosted: 00:50 - 06 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

the power Valve basically open and closes over the exhaust port, to control the pulse waves so that you get more power at lower revs when the valve is closed, but at high revs the vavle opens up to allow the bike to run normaly, they are ushally a semi-circle gate with a solenoid or a servo on the other end to open and close the valve, if memory serves me right Smile
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 01:25 - 06 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

A power valve changes how the exhaust side of a 2 stroke engine works depending on revs.

The most common type effectively varies the height of the exhaust port. This way the exhaust port opens earlier when the valve is open (ie, at high revs).

Another type are those where a chamber opens in the exhaust port, increasing exhaust port volume at low revs which should increase low down power.

The old Gilera system worked in both ways.

These valves are operated in various different ways. Commonly either using a servo motor, some just use a solonoid. Some work off the clutch and are operated by centrfugal force when the revs get high enough. Early Aprilia systems worked by using exhaust gas pressure.

All the best

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PostPosted: 01:26 - 06 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do not get these mixed up with Power Bands which are available from Demon Tweaks
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cliff
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 06 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent, cheers for the help people! Cool Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 17:14 - 06 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry but I'm going to have to laugh at hush for voting Deans post as helpful. Funny maybe, but helpful. Laughing

Anyone got a link to these power bands on Demon Tweaks? Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 06 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now why do I think that I made a mistake with someone taking the micky... I was under the impression that the 'power bands' post was a serious post... I was going to look them up at demon tweaks later. Am I to assume I've just fallen for a joke?

While on the subject, is there a noticable performance improvement to be gained from Power Valves?
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 06 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

hush wrote:
Now why do I think that I made a mistake with someone taking the micky... I was under the impression that the 'power bands' post was a serious post... I was going to look them up at demon tweaks later. Am I to assume I've just fallen for a joke?

While on the subject, is there a noticable performance improvement to be gained from Power Valves?


*cough cough cough*
hush wrote:

I was going to look them up at demon tweaks later.

*cough cough cough* /me rubs eyes
hush wrote:

I was going to look them up at demon tweaks later.


Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


Erm, why don't you go into a DIY store an ask for a long stand! Wink
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hush
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 06 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now you see, you let your guard down for one minute....

Embarassed How embarressed do I feel right now. Its things like this that make you think you'll need to find a new forum Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 06 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry hush mate. It's a long-standing joke on here and a fair few have fallen for it. I myself have falen for worse Very Happy Karma
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 06 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is cool, I don't mind tripping over a few traps now and again... Besides, it all learning in one way or another Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 06 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You passed the test though and didn't go off on one and held your hand up to been caught out. Very Happy

Well done - you'll go far here. Karma
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 06 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't suppose anyone knows where to get a bubble for a spirit level do they? Laughing
Maybe a left handed screwdriver? Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 01:44 - 07 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, they are over with the short weights and the glass hammers.

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PostPosted: 06:10 - 07 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe powerbands. I knew this guy once, sort of a friend of a friend, who apparently had a moped that he 'tuned up'. He supposedly put a coke can on the carburettor so that when it filled up with petrol it gave him a boost. He also said that he had 'loads' of powerband leads on it. This has been a joke within my circle of friends for years now and whenever someone asks us about one of our bikes, we point out the powerband leads. Thumbs Up Laughing
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hush
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 07 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hex Laughing - No point in getting worked up, after all, its good to be able to laugh at yourself... (but I'll be getting my own back later Twisted Evil )

Had all the regular DIY ones, but never heard of Power Bands. I did have a new guy start at a computer store I was managing, and as a joke we sent him to Dixons to price check a top of the range graphics card to put in - a laptop (told him to ask for one for the PCMCIA slot), which of course didn't (and still doesn't) exist. Anyhow he came back about 20 mins later and said, "They couldn't give me a price as they didn't have one in stock... But the guy said they'll have a couple in on Thursday."

We weren't sure whether to laugh at the lad for his naive nature, or the Dixon's guy for his obvious stupidity.

Now, to plan my revenge... Wink
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Hex
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 07 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

hush wrote:

Now, to plan my revenge... Wink


Heh its hard to get someone back who willing does things like this to himself:

https://www.okas.co.uk/~hex/toga/07.jpg
https://www.okas.co.uk/~hex/leaving/02.jpg

Oh and of course:

https://www.okas.co.uk/~hex/video/thumbs/thongmoto.jpg
(video associated with my avatar) Laughing
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cliff
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 07 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris pontius eat your heart out. Laughing Are those mini motos automatic or geared? Cool
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 08 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Automatic, simple twist and go jobs.

What makes it funnier (or maybe more concerning) is that the day before I broke two ribs coming off one. Laughing
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PostPosted: 01:17 - 09 Apr 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing
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