Engine Oil

[HD]

As you may know I am in the process of restoring my bike. After some engine oil but not sure what I should get.

It says in the (shit) manual that I should use AGIP 10w40 oil but everywhere I look that is for a 4 stroke engine. Well not, the AGIP but others are. On the silkolene website it says to use any of these for my model:

SILKOLENE PRO SRG 75W
: SILKOLENE COMP GEAR OIL 80W-90
: SILKOLENE BOA 80W-90
: SILKOLENE LIGHT GEAR OIL 75W-80

So that surely means 75-90w oil? What would be the best to use? Planning on going to J&S tomorrow to go and get this. And some coolant aswell. If not Silkolene's Pro Cool then what should I be looking at?

Thanks guys
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Rusty '02 Vito Camper + CBR600F3

[N cee thirty]

do you mean gearbox oil ? thought your bike was a 2 stroke senda
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Jewlio Iglesias wrote: I actually did vote BNP once

[HD]

Well yeah. The oil you put in the engine, think its gear oil? Just changed the clutch and I dont even know what oil it is

But seriously, its just 2 stroke oil in the reservoir to mix with the fuel and then gear/engine oil in the engine (sump?) right?

Thanks
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Rusty '02 Vito Camper + CBR600F3

[N cee thirty]

the 2 stroke oil lubes the main bearings and piston and bore n all that

the gearbox is a seperate area with its own oil,heard some people put 10w40 in but don't hold me to it

theres no sump to speak of,thats a 4 stroke thing
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Jewlio Iglesias wrote: I actually did vote BNP once

[HD]

So just 2 stroke and gear oil then?

Im after gear oil
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Rusty '02 Vito Camper + CBR600F3

[N cee thirty]

ye man

have a look out for reviews on them gear oils,see how they affect other peoples bikes with things like clutch drag n all that
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Jewlio Iglesias wrote: I actually did vote BNP once

[Kickstart]

Hi

The oil you put in the gearbox of a 2 stroke is often normal 4 stroke engine oil.

10W40 is a normal engine oil. The others you list are specific gearbox oils. The weights of engine and gearbox oils are not that same.

With gearbox oil there are other issues, as some additives used in some oils react with some materials used in some gearboxes. They will probably specify GL4 or GL5, but GL5 does not signify an improved oil over GL4 but instead a different oil. This tends to be an issue on cars with synchromesh on the gears, but one to be aware of anyway.

All the best

Keith
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[HD]

So what do I buy
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Rusty '02 Vito Camper + CBR600F3

[MinhDinh]

I got confused myelf when I had an RS125.

Engine oil is often known as 2stroke oil I think

Gearbox oil is 10 x 40 for the RS

To tell you the truth, I am still kinda lost on it
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[Carvel]

[HD]

So 10w40 then? Does it matter if it says four stroke on it?
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Rusty '02 Vito Camper + CBR600F3

[N cee thirty]

just get 10w40 and stop your moanin!

its all the same
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Jewlio Iglesias wrote: I actually did vote BNP once

[Carvel]

[HD]

[weasley]

Except 10W-40 is an engine oil viscosity classification and so you'll struggle to find a dedicated gear oil with 10W-40 on it. IIRC 80W-90 is the nearest equivalent gear oil viscosity.

[evoboy]

[neatbik]

Just get some 80-90w gearbox oil.
Job done.

[stinkwheel]

Yes. Normal, 10w-40 engine oil in the gearbox is pretty standard on many (most?) modern 2-strokes.

It's what lubricates the clutch and gearbox in 4-strokes too, these bits aren't significantly different between a 2-stroke and a 4-stroke. If anything, a 4-stroke is much harder on the oil because it's mashing it up through the engine too. It lasts much longer on a 2-stroke.

Last time I was in halfords, their semi-synthetic motorcycle 10W40 oil was on offer. Cheaper than the car stuff as it happens. This would be entirely appropriate, there is no need to blow your wad on super-special marketing gimmick oil for this application. Save that for your 2-stroke oil.

Any 10w-40 engine oil you can buy will be good enough. Just avoid car ones that contain lots of additives like GTX magnatec, these can cause clutch slip. Normal castrol GTX is fine too if you can find the 10w-40 grade (getting less easy to find these days). I used castrol GTX in my motorcycle engines for years with no problems but it started getting pricey.

I have tescos own brand semi-synthetic in my VFR at the moment.
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[ZRX61]

[ZRX61]

[neatbik]

Why not?

[Ariel Badger]

[neatbik]

Sendaman himself has said that 'SILKOLENE COMP GEAR OIL 80W-90' is one of the reccomended oils.

Usually packaged as EP 80-90 (which is what i should have said in my first post as that is what i meant - long day..)

So, in short, using EP80-90 wont do any harm, its designed for the purpose.

[MinhDinh]

[MarJay]