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Posted: 16:40 - 10 Jan 2006 Post subject: |
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Check under the headlamp area for the terminal where all the wires meet. Check all the plugs etc there are not corroded as water/road grime can hit that area. One of them is the live wire that feeds all electrics from one end of the bike to the other and if it's corroded/cut it will kill all circuits on the bike. My old GPZ (D7 2000) did this whilst i was driving. All of a sudden no engine, no lights, no electrics at all! I had no option but to coast to a stop and call the AA |
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Posted: 16:47 - 10 Jan 2006 Post subject: |
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Follow the fat red wire from the battery. This leads to the starter solenoid which is located under the left hand side panel. There is a red, plastic, snap connector block on the solenoid. Undo this.
This connector block contains the main fuse (30A) and all the power to the rest of the bike passes through it. One of the terminals that the fuse pushes into is prone to corrosion (on the fat, white wire), goes all green and furry and eats away the terminal on the fuse.
I have had to splice new terminals onto three of these in the past. The corrosion has a tendancy to track back along the wire so if this is the problem, you might have to cut a few inches off the wire and solder a new piece on.
Oh yeah. The fuse box CAN be totally dismantled. Surprised me, there is a bewildering array of printed circuits and microrelays in there.
I have also had an ignition switch go duff on me. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
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Posted: 11:57 - 11 Jan 2006 Post subject: |
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Success! Thanks for all the suggestions guys and give yourselves a pat on the back, it was the 30amp fuse that had blown. The starter solenoid terminals were a bit furry too so i gave those a clean and she started first press. |
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Old Thread Alert!
There is a gap of 5 years, 17 days between these two posts... |
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1) Way to resurrect a 4 year old thread.
2) As I said in my PM. That sounds distinctly odd.
Does the headlight flash when you press the "pass" button on the left switchgear?
Does the rev counter work when the engine is running? ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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The brown wire is the switched live feed to the fuse box. It feeds the head lights, tail lights, ignition, horn and indirectly, the flashers.
It's normally connected to the white wire via the switch (so when the switch is off, it's not connected to the white). It ought to have its own seperate tag to attach to on the switch. Soldering it to the white wire will mean the bike is on all the time, no matter what you do with the switch.
There is a branch which comes off the brown wire to feed the indicator fuse. Probably brown with a red tracer. The join is somewhere wrapped up in the loom.
If the brown is connected up properly at the ignition switch, there should be 12v where the red on brown (or whatever colour the indicator fuse feed is) enters the fuesbox with the ignition on. If there isn't, you'll need to peel back the loom and follow that wire to find where the break is. it ought to join that brown wire somewhere.
A thought. It is unusual for a soldered join to part company like you describe. It suggests to me that it got pretty damned hot. Perhaps there has been a short somewhere and the solder blew before the fuse? Perhaps that short was on the flasher wire? ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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That looks like it has been bodged at some point in the past. I'd say someone has tried to hotwire the bike by knocking the back off the switch and pulling the wires off and it's been repaired. The soldering is pretty ropy looking, could be another dry joint in there. I would be tempted to re-solder the lot of them one at a time.
If you have a multimeter, you ought to be able to track down which terminal you want that wire to connect to though.
One of the terminals will read 0V when the ignition switch is off and 12V when the switch is on. That's the one you want.
I have a dim recollection of there being a wire soldered to the metal plate on the back of the switch. Unfortunately it doesn't show this level of detail in the manual. Picture attached.
All things being equal. It might be a better idea to replace the ignition switch altogether. You'll get a second hand one off ebay for £30. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Posted: 19:41 - 06 Feb 2011 Post subject: Re: Kawasaki GPZ 500 - no electrics‏ |
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Hi,
Just an update to say it’s all working now.
I soldered back the wire as detailed in stinkwheel’s 'soldered.jpg' photo.
In the near future I plan to buy a replacement ignition switch on ebay.
I've sorted out the issue with the indicators not working.
It was my fault, in checking all the connections I'd reconnected the socket to the indicator relay incorrectly. Useful GPZ500 'no indicators' link:
https://www.high-speed.ismysite.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=7943&start=0
Many thanks to stinkwheel for all the help !
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 13 years, 99 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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