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I'm planning on doing a cbt and getting a 125cc to commute to work. Getting near to 100mpg is just too tempting with petrol prices being where they are.
My commute is around a 30miles round trip, almost entirely consisting of winding, potholed, country lanes. Therefore I think I want a bike with at least some off road potential, to make me feel secure enough on haggard roads. Unfortunately I really don't like the the look of your typical trail/enduro bikes so it needs to look more like a full sized bike. I wouldn't like to spend any more than £1500 but could stretch a bit further.
I found a few of bikes that fit the bill but they all seem to be quite sparse, and I'm having trouble finding any near me (Herts).
The bikes I have in mind are:
Hyosung RT125 (My favourite of the the lot but there doesn't seem to be any used ones about, and I think i'd lose a fair bit on depreciation buying new.)
Yamaha TW (Like the looks, like the fact that it's a decent make but the reviews aren't great)
Suzuki RV Vanvan (Looks a bit small, and not keen on it aesthetically, but seems to be along the right lines)
Sinnis Trackstar (Good review from MCN, looks really nice, dirt cheap to but new and with 2 year warranty, but not sure if it'll be any use on dodgy roads)
I really love the look of the Derbi Terra/Adventure but at £3500 it's way too expensive for me.
So has any body got any other suggestions of similar (or maybe not?) bikes I could look into? Any help would be much appreciated. |
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What about a DR350, or a Honda CB200 Benley, or a Honda SLR650? Offer as good ecconomy, and are more substancial, cheaper bikes?
I am leading you to admit you to say, 'becouse I dont have a licence... yet...
Beouse that's the answer.
CBT is not a driving test, its do you know bikes onl;y have two wheels and can fall over if you dont prop them up or balence them? Do you know where the gears are? Do you know you have to have a helmet? And can you ride accross a playground without seriousely hurting yourself....
You are 30 times more likely to have an accident on a motorbike than in a car, and L-Plate newbies are probably 30 times more likely than that to have an accident, YET only bludy form of transport any ones allowed out on the roads on, on thier own, unsupervised, without passing a test! Daft, isn't it?
125's aren't 'toy bikes', or any safer than 'propper' big bikes. Risks on a 30mph road or a 60mph road or 70mph road are exactly teh same whatever size bike you are riding, and 'little' bike, can just as easily do the same legal speeds.... so no added safety there.... and in many ways, lightweight and smaller diomensions making them more 'nimble' also makes them less stable, so in many circumstances you are facing more hazards on one than a big bike.
If you dont have the confidence you could handle a bigger bike, think TWICE whether you want to ride at all......
Are you thinking? Right, so making it safer for you, get trained get a licence, get out of that danger zone of being on L-Plates.
Bugger what the bike looks like, or whether it has off road suspension... you DO NOT need it for pot holed country roads, its not like a Range Rover.... and knobbly tyres that come with pogo suspension are as much of an impediment and certainly a confidence killer, for any benefit soft suspension offers.
You want a decent, simple, easy to live with, easy to ride LEARNER bike...... and some training.... get that, get a licence, and door is open to whole host of bikes that are likely to far better do what you want, and fit your sense of sensibilities.....
And having gone through the motions, you'll have a far better idea of the actual merits of such stuff, to better decide.
Meanwhile, bikes to check out are the Yamaha YBR125, possibly a Honda Veradaro.
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| Teflon-Mike wrote: | What about a DR350, or a Honda CB200 Benley, or a Honda SLR650? Offer as good ecconomy, and are more substancial, cheaper bikes?
I am leading you to admit you to say, 'becouse I dont have a licence... yet...
Beouse that's the answer.
CBT is not a driving test, its do you know bikes onl;y have two wheels and can fall over if you dont prop them up or balence them? Do you know where the gears are? Do you know you have to have a helmet? And can you ride accross a playground without seriousely hurting yourself....
You are 30 times more likely to have an accident on a motorbike than in a car, and L-Plate newbies are probably 30 times more likely than that to have an accident, YET only bludy form of transport any ones allowed out on the roads on, on thier own, unsupervised, without passing a test! Daft, isn't it?
125's aren't 'toy bikes', or any safer than 'propper' big bikes. Risks on a 30mph road or a 60mph road or 70mph road are exactly teh same whatever size bike you are riding, and 'little' bike, can just as easily do the same legal speeds.... so no added safety there.... and in many ways, lightweight and smaller diomensions making them more 'nimble' also makes them less stable, so in many circumstances you are facing more hazards on one than a big bike.
If you dont have the confidence you could handle a bigger bike, think TWICE whether you want to ride at all......
Are you thinking? Right, so making it safer for you, get trained get a licence, get out of that danger zone of being on L-Plates.
Bugger what the bike looks like, or whether it has off road suspension... you DO NOT need it for pot holed country roads, its not like a Range Rover.... and knobbly tyres that come with pogo suspension are as much of an impediment and certainly a confidence killer, for any benefit soft suspension offers.
You want a decent, simple, easy to live with, easy to ride LEARNER bike...... and some training.... get that, get a licence, and door is open to whole host of bikes that are likely to far better do what you want, and fit your sense of sensibilities.....
And having gone through the motions, you'll have a far better idea of the actual merits of such stuff, to better decide.
Meanwhile, bikes to check out are the Yamaha YBR125, possibly a Honda Veradaro. |
I did say in the first post that I'm pre-cbt and looking for a 125cc.
Saying that I did do a cbt many years ago and had a Yamaha TDR until that ran out (didn't bother to take full test as I'd got my full car license by then.) So I do already feel comfortable on learner bikes.
And all the bikes listed are learner legal btw.
So you think a typical road bike will be better suited than one with off roading pretentions then? |
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Rider skill is what keeps the rubber down, not bike style. If you're going to stick with a 125, then the YBR125 is our current top choice.
That said, Varadero 125 riders love their bikes, but then again, they won't sell them cheaply.
And what Mike said: invest £121.50 in passing your test and you'll get access to a much larger range of bikes.
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| Cuchulain wrote: | | Teflon-Mike wrote: | What about a DR350, or a Honda CB200 Benley, or a Honda SLR650? Offer as good ecconomy, and are more substancial, cheaper bikes?
I am leading you to admit you to say, 'becouse I dont have a licence... yet...
Beouse that's the answer.
CBT is not a driving test, its do you know bikes onl;y have two wheels and can fall over if you dont prop them up or balence them? Do you know where the gears are? Do you know you have to have a helmet? And can you ride accross a playground without seriousely hurting yourself....
You are 30 times more likely to have an accident on a motorbike than in a car, and L-Plate newbies are probably 30 times more likely than that to have an accident, YET only bludy form of transport any ones allowed out on the roads on, on thier own, unsupervised, without passing a test! Daft, isn't it?
125's aren't 'toy bikes', or any safer than 'propper' big bikes. Risks on a 30mph road or a 60mph road or 70mph road are exactly teh same whatever size bike you are riding, and 'little' bike, can just as easily do the same legal speeds.... so no added safety there.... and in many ways, lightweight and smaller diomensions making them more 'nimble' also makes them less stable, so in many circumstances you are facing more hazards on one than a big bike.
If you dont have the confidence you could handle a bigger bike, think TWICE whether you want to ride at all......
Are you thinking? Right, so making it safer for you, get trained get a licence, get out of that danger zone of being on L-Plates.
Bugger what the bike looks like, or whether it has off road suspension... you DO NOT need it for pot holed country roads, its not like a Range Rover.... and knobbly tyres that come with pogo suspension are as much of an impediment and certainly a confidence killer, for any benefit soft suspension offers.
You want a decent, simple, easy to live with, easy to ride LEARNER bike...... and some training.... get that, get a licence, and door is open to whole host of bikes that are likely to far better do what you want, and fit your sense of sensibilities.....
And having gone through the motions, you'll have a far better idea of the actual merits of such stuff, to better decide.
Meanwhile, bikes to check out are the Yamaha YBR125, possibly a Honda Veradaro. |
I did say in the first post that I'm pre-cbt and looking for a 125cc.
Saying that I did do a cbt many years ago and had a Yamaha TDR until that ran out (didn't bother to take full test as I'd got my full car license by then.) So I do already feel comfortable on learner bikes.
And all the bikes listed are learner legal btw.
So you think a typical road bike will be better suited than one with off roading pretentions then? |
Your point was you wanted a 125 to do all you want a bike to do.
My point was, thy rarely can. Much better value in bigger bikes, that need full licence. Get that and whole spectum of better bikes, in better condition that are far more likely to do all you want are available to you over and above 125's.... hence worry about a 125 thats most suitable to get you through test and bollox to the rest... you get that in stage 2, licence in your pocket when you go looking what you can chop the 125 in for.
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| Cuchulain wrote: | Okay I hear what everyone is saying. But I still see a couple of problems with that. |
You THINK there is a couple of problems... but carry on lets here your ideas.....
| Cuchulain wrote: | With bigger bikes there is a big drop in mpg. And seeing as I can get 40mpg in my car anyway, it makes it a little less tempting to commute on two wheels. |
Absolutely, and factor in maintenece, winter weather, and the atraction of a heater and Terry wogans morning show..... it can seriousely 'dent' the presumed 100mpg ecconomy, pro-rata savings you might assume, and seriousely tip the balence.
BUT! to get down to 40mpg, you are talking about leaping all the way up to full power in line fours, in the 600 bracket. And they CAN be more expensive to run than your car.
BUT, used sensibly I can push 70mpg from my 750. Others with more sophisticated water cooled IL4's, using them gently, can better than a bit. 500 Twin, which will be far more comfortable for you commute, should be able to return a good 60mpg without having to apply too much restraint, and applying a bit, nudge the 80 mark. WHICH is possibly BETTER that you'd get from a 125 ragging the arse out of it trying to keep up with traffic on NSL roads. 125's will ONLY do the sort of 100+mpg suggested if they are kept under about 50mph, which many learners achieve doing most of thier miles practicing test routes round housing estates, or tootling to and from college accross town...
| Cuchulain wrote: | Even if my objective is going to be to take my test as soon as possible, i'll probably be stuck with whatever 125 I buy for a couple of years, seeing as I'll be restricted to 33bhp anyway (and there doesn't seem to be much around in that bracket, apart from derestricted 125's). |
SO wrong. There are LOADs of bikes that fall into the 33bhp restriction bracket, and even MORE if you restrict a bike specifically for the 33bhp limit, as many do.
Naturally 33bhp complient, Brand New, is the Kawasaki 250 Ninja, or Honda's CBR250, which both chuck out about 26 bhp, the same as a de-restricted 'sports' 125, but with ecconomical four stroke engines that dont need expensive synthetic two stroke oil to stop them siezing. Claims for both suggest around 90mpg, and low running costs, and are marketed EXPRESELY for the job you suggest. A 'larger' slightly ore substantial, 33bhp licence complient 'commuter'.
More commonly, in the second hand arena, are the 500 commuter twins, which are all over the 33bhp limit as standard, but with only two cylinders and not THAT much over the limit, easily restrict. Bikes like the Kawasaki GPz500S, ER5, Suzuki GS500, or SV650, Honda NTV650, CB500, Transalp, Africa Twin, SL650 (Single).
ALL return good mpg, in the 70's, with reasonably low running costs, and are easy to restrict to 33bhp.
Looking further afield, and lower down the capacity range, you tend to have to look older, or at dirt bikes. But, the old Honda CB250N 'Super Dream', at 27bhp was designed for this kind of work. The CB250RS single, is a lot lighter and just as powerful, and more ecconomical. Kawasaki's GPz250 or GPz305, likewise, or Suzukis GSX250. Also CB400 Super Dream, and GSX400.
For super cheap ecconomy commuting the 16bhp Honda CB200 'Benley' is a very comfortable little bike, that is just a tad more powerful than a Learner Legal 125, brilliant ecconomy from single carbed twin cylinder engine, and usually cheaper to insure than even 'cheap' 125's.
On the Insuranec front, the GS500 is the lowest insurance grouped 500, and is group 7, the same as a 'sports' 125.... the 250's, the 305, and such are ALL lower insurance groups than the sportier 125's, and the more sensible bigger bikes are barely one or two groups higher.
TOTAL cost of ownership; long term, going for a larger bike, is likely to be little different in cost, but a heck of a lot less frustrating for the job at hand.
| Cuchulain wrote: | How much do you think I should be spending on a bike? I can't seem to find much for less than £1500. And for that money you either get a brand new chinese machine or a high mileage japanese one. |
£1500 should get you what is currently my 'ideal' 125 Learner Commuter, by way of a three and a bit, first MOT passed Yamaha YBR125. They represent just about the optimum compromise by way of as new and unworn or abused for least money spent, and most money returned when sold, with the least risk of things going wrong and it being easy to ride, and 'fit for purpose' by way of performance and everything else. Typically three four year old YBR's are going for between £900 & £1500, with only really optimistic trade sales going much over that.
THAT is what I think you ought to be looking for, and what you ought to budget spending.
TESTS done, you can sell a YBR for nie on what you pay for it, and go looking for a bigger bike with the money, and £1500 will get you a LOT more by way of bigger bike, and plenty by way of the 500 commuter twins. In fact almost every bike I have listed as a candidate, you could get an example of, in that budget.
BUT, try getting 'more' by way of a 125 that stretched to the max, tries to do everything you want.... and well, the 'premium' on 125's means you will be paying infinitely more for very little extra.
Hence suggestion, back up, get BASIC 125 that WONT do everything you want it to do, but WILL excel at helping you get your licence, then when you have done THAT flog it, and use money to get a bike that WILL do all you want it to, an AWFUL lot more easily, a lot more comfortably, and with a LOT better chance of finding a 'decent' bike within your budget...
It's merely looking that bit BEYOND this mental block of ideas and preconceptions, and having some 'faith' that we aren't stringing you a line or fobbing you off or spouting bullshit... for whatever reason..... we DO know what we are talking about for the most part, and ultimately, a 125 is NOT the best bike for the job you suiggest, ANY of them, and a 'bigger' bike, picked sensibly COULD BE.. and certainly stands a MUCH better chance of being a 'better' all round compromise.
You have to crunch the numbers though......
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| Cuchulain wrote: | p.s What's the highest limit of bhp that would be easily restrict to 33hp? |
The spec power is pretty immeterial. what makes them easier or harder to restrict is the topogrophy and design.
An SV650 is pretty easy to restrict, fro 70bhpish, its a plug ion black box on the ECU, as far as I know... takes about two minutes.
GPZ500, twin carbs, bit harder, takes two washers in the inlet rubbers, you have to get at the carbs to remove and fit the kit, to get it down from about 60 ponies.
VFR 400, four carbs that are a pain to get at and set up, takes a lot more work to get them down from 50ish bhp.....
Old CB550 'four' with points ignition and slide carbs, a pain to try and restrict, you'd have to put throttle limiters on top of each carb slide, to try and limit air flow, and much about with the ignition to try and retard it a bit.... to get that down from its 45ish bhp.
There's no real rules or fixed formula.
Guide is, that the fewer cylnders the bike has, and the more generic its design, and the closer it is to limit to begin with, the easier it will be to restrict and feel the least strangled.....
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| Teflon-Mike wrote: | | Cuchulain wrote: | p.s What's the highest limit of bhp that would be easily restrict to 33hp? |
The spec power is pretty immeterial. what makes them easier or harder to restrict is the topogrophy and design.
An SV650 is pretty easy to restrict, fro 70bhpish, its a plug ion black box on the ECU, as far as I know... takes about two minutes.
GPZ500, twin carbs, bit harder, takes two washers in the inlet rubbers, you have to get at the carbs to remove and fit the kit, to get it down from about 60 ponies.
VFR 400, four carbs that are a pain to get at and set up, takes a lot more work to get them down from 50ish bhp.....
Old CB550 'four' with points ignition and slide carbs, a pain to try and restrict, you'd have to put throttle limiters on top of each carb slide, to try and limit air flow, and much about with the ignition to try and retard it a bit.... to get that down from its 45ish bhp.
There's no real rules or fixed formula.
Guide is, that the fewer cylnders the bike has, and the more generic its design, and the closer it is to limit to begin with, the easier it will be to restrict and feel the least strangled..... |
Ah, okay. Nice one, thanks for clearing that up.
What do reckon as far as a Royal Enfield for a first bike then? |
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See if you can get a Derbi Terra for that money. I just part-exchanged a two year old one for just under that so they should be available. Anyway, what can I say? A capable liquid cooled motor right up at the legal power limit, good ground clearance, no vibrations at all and comfortable seating. I loved mine and apart from a crack in the HT cap it never let me down.
https://www.derbi.com/int/images/stories/motos/dual/terra_125/000_15.png
Oh, and in case Derbi isn't a familiar name to you, they won the MotoGP 125s last year and are doing well this.
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| Cuchulain wrote: | No-one got a view on Enfields? I really quite fancy the trials version.
Also looking into Jawa's. Anyone got any experience with them?
Still looking for similar suggestions too, if anyones got any? Key things i'm looking for are: Ruggedness, good mpg, easy to service/work on, reliability, good for country lanes. |
Jawas... great if you are doing speedway or grass track racing, with thier evolution of the old J.A.Prestwick engine...... otherwise, they are (to my knowledge) ancient, piston ported, Adler copy twins, built in former soviet union, by disgruntled Czek's in a Communist Gulag.... bit like MZ's without the performance or reliability.
Enfield..... loverly bikes... for real, 'enthusiasts', that like the ancient... sorry 'Classic' styling, home maintenence, and the vibration of a badly loaded washing machine under thier bum!
They are a bit quixotic, sort of an anti-bimota... but as specialised in thier appeal and practicality.
Trials variant?!? for an Every Day ROAD bike.... to COMMUTE on?
Are you married? Do you already have kids?
If SO... possibly not a bad one to go for.... I mean post marriage, your sex life dies anyway, and after a couple of kids, you remember it fondly...... so, in those circumstances, trying to commute, 30 miles a day on an Enfield Trials rep..... well, you wont 'miss' the loss of sensation in your happy sack! 
I do have a soft spot for the Enfield...... but it's unfortunately not in my head.... hence never having one!
Though, active in classic trials for numerouse years, I have been tempted a few times... either full 'Pre-65' Comp Trials 'Chop' or roadster... six week hike round Northern India, fifteen years ago also endeared them to me.... BUT.....
For an 'every day' bike..... sorry, I'd buy a Honda!
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