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PostPosted: 23:39 - 02 Oct 2004    Post subject: Bad karma people having to post a long message Reply with quote

Can this be removed or revised?? It's annoying as fook and people who do this always get their karma attacked for it

Such as this thread:

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=33637

He's posted something a few times to get the post long enough to be submitted, then a couple of people rated it as boring. Okay it is boring that he's had to post it but FFS why should people have to write long posts when they are just trying to say something simple?

It's pointless and ends up in that user getting even more crappy bad karma and then starts arguments over people having to post crap at the end of their posts just so it will submit..

Just a thought ...........
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 02 Oct 2004    Post subject: Re: Bad karma people having to post a long message Reply with quote

YamsR6 wrote:
why should people have to write long posts when they are just trying to say something simple?

For pissing most of the forum off for posting shit like he has in the past? He did a fairly good job of it as his profile has recent karma rating received is all negative apart from a few who rated his "joke" as funny. It is fairly clearly explained in the help section what the karma system will and won't like and tell you you'll suffer if you get bad karma.

Why should he have to write longer posts? Because for the vast majority of people who manage to create themselves a reasonable negative karma score they just post short posts which are generally annoying and would be better off being slightly longer.

Well it's their own fault they're getting further bad karma, they see what happens when they do something bad and then continue to do it, so they can hardly be suprised if whatever happens continues happening.
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PostPosted: 00:06 - 03 Oct 2004    Post subject: Re: Bad karma people having to post a long message Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
YamsR6 wrote:
why should people have to write long posts when they are just trying to say something simple?

For pissing most of the forum off for posting shit like he has in the past? He did a fairly good job of it as his profile has recent karma rating received is all negative apart from a few who rated his "joke" as funny. It is fairly clearly explained in the help section what the karma system will and won't like and tell you you'll suffer if you get bad karma.

Why should he have to write longer posts? Because for the vast majority of people who manage to create themselves a reasonable negative karma score they just post short posts which are generally annoying and would be better off being slightly longer.

Well it's their own fault they're getting further bad karma, they see what happens when they do something bad and then continue to do it, so they can hardly be suprised if whatever happens continues happening.


It may be there own fault etc, but how are they meant to "redeem" themselves and get their "karma" back up if they have to post crap in every post which therefore makes them get worse karma than before.

I thought a big point of the karma system was not to carry across "grudges" against people? Well now people with bad karma can't get out of the "hole" they are in as every post they make they have to write rubbish which then gets negative karma. Rolling Eyes

I don't care about the karma but it's annoying to see people putting loads of lines of CRAP after every post (especially when it's a serious post from someone and not a crappy over-reacted joke)
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PostPosted: 00:17 - 03 Oct 2004    Post subject: Re: Bad karma people having to post a long message Reply with quote

YamsR6 wrote:
how are they meant to "redeem" themselves and get their "karma" back up if they have to post crap in every post which therefore makes them get worse karma than before.

Click the help link in the menu and it's answered in the post "Guide to Karma" Razz

Why do they have to write rubbish in every post, is there something stopping them from writing a post of length which isn't copying and pasting crap?
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PostPosted: 00:26 - 03 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't it possible that he got the 'boring' ratings for his content, not the spamming at the end?

It's not hard to write posts that aren't two lines long. A good thing to do is before submitting a post, give it a read through and think "Am i contributing anything with this post? Will anyone actually care about what i've typed?". For short posts, the answers could well be 'no'. If you already have negative karma, perhaps it's best not to make content-less posts.
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 03 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I found his post to be boring because of the crap at the bottom of it, the rest of his post was a reasonable point which added to the conversation.
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PostPosted: 00:40 - 03 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Well I found his post to be boring because of the crap at the bottom of it, the rest of his post was a reasonable point which added to the conversation.


EXACTLY my point
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PostPosted: 00:44 - 03 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if you post shit then it is fair to expect it to be rated Thumbs Down.

It does say in the guide about karma that if you piss the karma system of and get enough Thumbs Down karma then it'll make you suffer, might be worth expanding that to mention what it will make you do.

He could have posted slightly more indepth about why he thought it was such a bad thing, rather than just saying "If you was ment to not use the clutch it wouldn't be there IMO", he could have mentioned something about why he thought we're not meant to such as damage to parts, or something else on topic.
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PostPosted: 00:51 - 03 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Well if you post shit then it is fair to expect it to be rated Thumbs Down.


He didn't intentionally post shit, he posted his opinion which was perfectly acceptable. It wasn't his fault he had to write shite at the end.

Ste wrote:
It does say in the guide about karma that if you piss the karma system of and get enough Thumbs Down karma then it'll make you suffer, might be worth expanding that to mention what it will make you do.


Not just him that suffers though, it's everyone who has to read lots of shite at ends of otherwise decent posts just because "he has to"

Ste wrote:
He could have posted slightly more indepth about why he thought it was such a bad thing, rather than just saying "If you was ment to not use the clutch it wouldn't be there IMO", he could have mentioned something about why he thought we're not meant to such as damage to parts, or something else on topic.


If someone with good karma had said that same comment I bet a few people would have rated Thumbs Up agree... for the fact he has bad karma people rate as Thumbs Down Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 00:59 - 03 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

YamsR6 wrote:
It wasn't his fault he had to write shite at the end.

Well whose fault is it then?

He has now learnt that posting shit like that will only reduce his low karma levels even more, and it'll now if he carrys on start to go up I'd expect. Thumbs Up

YamsR6 wrote:
If someone with good karma had said that same comment I bet a few people would have rated Thumbs Up agree... for the fact he has bad karma people rate as Thumbs Down Rolling Eyes

Yes, there was nothing wrong with him saying that he thought bikes wouldn't have clutches if we're meant to do clutchless shifting, but if someone with good karma posted exactly the same as he posted then it would have got a similar ratings and replies.

Well it would seem to be a good idea to learn from your mistakes, you post one joke of what was considered very bad taste, it got lots of "stfu" replies and Thumbs Down ratings. After that you then thought it would be a good idea to post another joke of a similar bad taste level, and suprise suprise the same happened again. Did it really come as a shock after what happened after your first joke that when you posted a similar joke you got a similar Thumbs Down ratings and replies?

No people are not holding grudges against you, they're holding grudges against you posting "You have too much bad karma to post such a short message." in the same way that if anyone else posted that they'd get Thumbs Down ratings.
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PostPosted: 01:21 - 03 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
He has now learnt that posting shit like that will only reduce his low karma levels even more,


And how the F**K do you get 2 gold stars, when you post pictures of disabled blokes/women, for 'comedic value', whilst insulting people using the picture as an insult???
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PostPosted: 01:24 - 03 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sammyboy wrote:
And how the F**K do you get 2 gold stars, when you post pictures of disabled blokes/women, for 'comedic value', whilst insulting people using the picture as an insult???


Completely agree with that, sorry Ste but he's right on this one.
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PostPosted: 01:30 - 03 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

And that's in reference to? Negative karma has the same effect on your score with everyone, if you have more good karma than some of it going will affect you less than someone who has bad karma.
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 03 Oct 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fail to see how making someone with bad karma (presumable because there posts are crap/offensive/boring) post long posts is a benefit to anyone Confused
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