My bike was stolen and 10 months later it turns up in a shop

[thepuma]

I can see both sides of this argument.

A few years ago i bought a Guitar on ebay..was a £1200 Les Paul which id always wanted and had saved a while for.

A few months later i received a letter from the Police to say the guitar had been stolen by the seller from the shop he worked at. They did say that i wouldnt be held to account and that the goods were mine as id paid for them genuinely.

Now, imagine if the shop had tracked me down and decided to come to my house demanding their guitar back that i had paid for with my hard earned cash? should i lose £1200 as it wasnt my fault? should the shop?.....i dunno, its a difficult one.

In this instance I just dont think its as easy as people saying "just go to the garage and take it back"......great in theory but maybe not in practice.

Although granted in this instance, a simple search by the garage (which they should do every time) would have flagged it up as stolen...so the garage could and should have protected itself.
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YBR125 (SOLD) - CBR250R(SOLD) - CBR650F(SOLD) Current - Street Triple
765 RS

[Rogerborg]

[jimbopea]

Book a test ride, ride it home, profit????

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[thepuma]

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[Andy_Pagin]

According to Citizens Advice it isn't 100% clear cut...

Who owns the goods?

If you buy stolen goods, the general rule is that you are not the legal owner. In other words, you do not have good title. This applies even if you paid a fair price and didn’t know that the goods were stolen. The person who originally owned them is still the legal owner.

The only exception to this rule is where goods are insured, such as cars. In this case, the goods would become the property of the insurance company after the real owner's claim had been paid.
What should you do if you’ve bought stolen goods?


If you know who is the rightful owner of the goods

You should inform them that you have their goods and let them take them away. If you don’t give them back, the owner can apply for a court order to make you return the goods.

If you have spent money on improving or repairing the stolen goods, you may be able to claim compensation for the value of these improvements or repairs. However, this only applies if the owner is taking court action to get their goods back. If you hand the goods back willingly, you lose the right to claim this compensation.
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[goto10]

[Andy_Pagin]

I suspect a judge would rule that a professional dealer should have been aware that he was buying something dodgy, and should have sorted the paperwork before working on the bike, and thus can forget any compo.
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They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa, hey-hey,
the men in white coats are coming to take me away.
Yamaha Vity -> YBR125 -> FZS600 Fazer -> FZ1-S Fazer

[supZ]

[parkmoy]

[Bomberman]

[thepuma]

Amazingly the question that hasnt been asked yet is...Who did they buy the bike off?

Surely a bike dealer wouldnt pay cash for a bike without seeing the documents? Id be stunned if they did....

I too think theres more to this.
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YBR125 (SOLD) - CBR250R(SOLD) - CBR650F(SOLD) Current - Street Triple
765 RS

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OP, updates.

Please tell me you went in there, walked out with your bike, teabagged the guy that took it in and stole his pens.

[gorillaonabik...]

Hypothetically, if what you are saying is correct, then you should indeed by entitled to the return of your goods, subject to legal advice.

However, I would add the words of one of my law lecturers at Uni, a serving magistrate. He always said that while turning up is good, turning up with the forward pack of the local rugby team is even better.
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FZR400 (blown engine), ZXR750 (blown engine), ZX6R (accident), CBR600 which had engine issues after which I learned to change gear..., CBR900, CBR924 (stolen), CB600, CB1300 (everything blew up), BMW K1300GT (written off, hit from rear while stationary), Bandit 1250 for a couple of months, Triumph Sprint ST 1050 (nicked) and somewhere in there, I wrote off a Ducati 748 at Cadwell.

[Suntan Sid]

Although it wouldn't be good news for the OP, with the ensuing storage charges that Plod may ask for.
I still don't understand why Plod haven't seized the bike, they know it's stolen, they know where it is.
There is no "civil matter" get out clause for them, so why aren't they doing what they normally do and relocating the stolen bike to the police pound?
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[Rogerborg]

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[Benno]

Dealership buys bike that has busted ignition, no keys, no documentation, and has been ragged. They fail to perform HPI or any other registration check on it. They fail to check MOT/tax history.

They then try to register it, do it up, and sell it. What utter retards. They were either hilariously stupid to the point that we should make a reality show about them, or they were bastards trying to make a nice buck off stolen property.

Sounds like capitalism to me. Rape the third world, sell the products for profit.

Fortunately we're not the third world, so walk the fuck in there with a gopro on and take back what is yours. If you want, I'll even turn up in a suit and say some big words, or even better bring along a platoon of lads in uniform
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[Suntan Sid]

[darthbuttchin]

[Supermoto_Fan]

OP will surely deliver?
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