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Hi,
I'm looking for a 125 that can obviously do over 70mph and hold steady at 70mph. I often travel A roads on my moped every day and I'm quite quite slow, using doing 55/60MPH.
Also I'll be taking my motorbike test soon I need a manual as well to practice on.
I've heard that the HONDA NSR is quite good bike for this.
I also wouldn't mind getting the KTM Duke, but unsure how reliable it is.
I wouldn't mind getting a YBR, but apparently they can't do more than 65.
What I really need is a reliable bike that can do 70mph. I don't really care if it's sporty or not. Emphasis on reliable, I don't want a high maintenance bike.
I hope someone can recommend me a bike, thanks. 
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fyi I have this its comfy and "fast" good enough for me.
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The Hyosung comet GT 125 and gt125 R are good. I got one a couple of months ago and it sits happily at 75 mph with enough revs to do 80 at a nudge.
Although the quality of the finish is not quite as good as a bike from Honda or Yamaha etc, it is good looking, and with the purpose built Scorpion exhaust it sounds quite nice too  |
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Wanna sit steady at 70mph? Get a proper bike 
If not, suck it up and stop speeding 
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YAMAHA YZF R125!!! SEX ON WHEELS, LOADS OF POSSIBLE MODS AVAILABLE AS WELL.
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You've said you can manage 55/60mph, that is more than enough for A roads. If your buying a faster bike purley to speed everywhere I would save yourself the hassle, and forget about adding up those points.
No A-Roads I know are 70mph speed limits.
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| adam277 wrote: | | BenZXR wrote: | Wanna sit steady at 70mph? Get a proper bike
If not, suck it up and stop speeding |
Stop speeding? |
National Speed limit is 60mph. Only place you can legally do more is on a duel-carriageway, or closed to public track.
MOPEDS may not do more than 35mph. Restriction is not on the nike, but in law. If it can do more than 35mph, it ent a moped, and you are committing three offences
1/ Exceeding statutory speed limit for vehicle type
(Posted speed limit is the maximum permitted speed for the road; different vehicles, may have lower maximum speed limits; such as electrically proppelled vehicles, cars towing a trailer, or... MOPEDS)
2/ Riding a Vehicle other than described on the Registration
(Construction & Use regs deem a moped to be a powered two wheeler, with an engine displacing less than 50cc and having a maximum speed no greater than 35mph. If it can exceed 35mph.... then legally it ent a moped, so not whats on its V5 registration document, )
3/ Riding other than in accordance with licence entitlement
Its not a moped if it goes more than 35mph... its a motorcycle; technically riding a 'de-restricted' moped that hasn't been re-regiostered as a motorcycle is no different to taking the number-plate off a pedal & pop and slapping it on a Suzuki Hyabusa and pretending that is the moped the number-plate and log-book belong to, and as its quite obviousley not a moped, you dont have licence entitlement to be riding it.
Nievety of youth, that 5mph is worth SO much.
125's kid ent fast. even the fastest, non-learner legal 125's like a de-restricted Aprillia RS, with twice the power Learner / A1 laws allow, ent quick, in the greater gambit of all bikes.
Go through the buyers guides and its pretty hard to find much, other than other 125's and a few smaller displacement dirt-bikes or cruisers, that are actually as SLOW as even the quickest 125's.
There is bog all between them; and the book specs are merely a guidline.
The Yamaha YBR is quotyed variousely as capable of between 65 & 70... its a speed machine, but its competant, and it will more regularly achieve real-world 60-65mph velocities.
YZF-R125 is quoted variousely between about 70 & 75mph. It is a slightly more powerful bike; BUT, what they dont tell you is that the acceleration beyond 65mph will mean you wont see 70 all that easily, and when you do, its going to be in more favourable conditions, down hill, with the wind behind you.... and if its incline or weather is against you, it WONT do it.
People also bandy much bigger numbers about for most bikes; and theres the old chestnut of 'indicated' speeds. Ie what the speedo says you are doing, as opposed to what you are REALLY doing.
Most speedos over read, and on little bikes where nieve youngsters believe its so much more important and are that much more gullible.... can over read hugely/
I have a penchant for 125's. My preffered means of masocism is little Honda CB125Twins. Designed in 1977, the full-power variant is, to best of my knowledge still the fastest production four-stroke 125 ever made.
Speedo-accuracy? I have maxed out a CB125 Super-Dream fairly regularly; more reliable GPS readings have credited it with up to about 73mph... snail trails from it after, that average the speed over a few sample spaces, are often a couple of points lower, whiule teh speedo itself can be reading anything from well over 80, to completely off the scale pointing some-where there might be a 95 mark if they took the numbers up that far.
BEST genuionely learner legal 125's; THE fastest you will go with a genuinely Learner-legal A1 complient 14.5bhp, is about 75mph, and you will NOT, even on the best of them be 'cruising' hapily at 70 all day long. Any inconvenient incline, any adverse wind, will ruin your chances of getting to those speeds, or holding them... EVEN if you have the stamina and lack of mechanical sympathy to sit on top of a bike reving its nuts off against the rev limiter, the vibrating making your fingers numb, and the mechanical clatter, making you wince. Of course you could ignore it... BUT? running a little motor at 10/10ths constantly isn't going to see it last too long.
ITS NO BIG DEAL....
And it sure as heck isn;t such a big deal as to be worth spending stupid money on or compromiseing other far more important criteria in a first bike, like how much it will cost to insure; how much it will cost to fix when you bin it; or how much it will cost to repair when you blow the piston bearings!
Stepping from a legal 3.5bhp moped to even a YBR125 which has 3x that power, is a big and noticeable difference. And the performance is unlikely to 'frsutrate you'.
Even stepping off an illegally de-restricted, perhaps 7bhp 50, 10bhp, with far more extra in the lower rev-range, we call 'low down power', will be a revalation.
And you are a young, nieve and inexperienced rider; dont demand too much too soon. A 125, even a 'slow' CG or YBR is still a respectably swift vehicle, that is quick enough to keep with all legal traffic on all but a duel carriageway, and even THERE, a significant proportion, notably the trucks cant go any faster.
In short you do NOT 'need' a 70mph 125... you WANT a 70mph 125, but as a new and inexperienced rider, as yet, you dont know what you need, and have no incling of the real-world difference, and are likely to take the answers that best support what you 'want'....
End of the day its your call.... but ANY 125 ought to do the job....
If not, then the bike is not likely to be the problem, and NO Learner-Lagal / A1 complient 125 is likely to be the answer to it.
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In short you do NOT 'need' a 70mph 125... you WANT a 70mph 125, but as a new and inexperienced rider, as yet, you dont know what you need, and have no incling of the real-world difference, and are likely to take the answers that best support what you 'want'....
End of the day its your call.... but ANY 125 ought to do the job....
If not, then the bike is not likely to be the problem, and NO Learner-Lagal / A1 complient 125 is likely to be the answer to it. |
Yea, I know I want a 70mph bike.
I made a slight mistake in my first post. I use the word moped/scooter interchangeably even though I know they are different. I currently have a 125cc scooter and I have been on a CG125 before. I have been driving almost a year on my scooter. I got the scooter because it has a big boot, so I wouldn't say I really care for speed as much as most young drivers.
The road I travel to work has a 70mph limit. Yes, I do not need to travel at that speed but it would be nice if I could, if I so desired.
I just want a decent 'fast' 125 I can keep for a year or so after passing my test. I've already been given an answer anyway.
I do appreciate your advice though, even if it does feel like you are chastising me. |
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| Teflon-Mike wrote: | YZF-R125 is quoted variousely between about 70 & 75mph. It is a slightly more powerful bike; BUT, what they dont tell you is that the acceleration beyond 65mph will mean you wont see 70 all that easily, and when you do, its going to be in more favourable conditions, down hill, with the wind behind you.... and if its incline or weather is against you, it WONT do it. |
Yawn, same old crap from someone who's never been on one  . Mine sits happily at 70mph just about every day (won't do it in strong winds or up steep hills, but does manage 70mph up some hills). Probably helps that i'm not that that heavy and look after the bike properly.
On a good day they will max out on the flat or downhill at about 83 when it hits the rev limiter at 10500rpm (this is not an "indicated" speed, its calculated using the tyre sizes, gear ratios and max rpm). Random chavs on the R125 forums will claim to have seen higher speeds, which they may have "indicated", but in reality didn't, its 83 tops without messing with the sprocket sizes.
Its not a cheap bike to own though, expensive to buy (but if you buy used, the prices hold up quite well), expensive to insure if you're a teenager, and service intervals every 3500 miles. Also, lots of expensive plastic to break if you drop them.
I've had mine about 2 1/2 years now but will probably look at selling when my license restriction period ends in May (couldn't be bothered with the hassle of restricting a bigger bike, and quite enjoy the 100+mpg I get from the R125 anyway).
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| Teflon-Mike wrote: |
National Speed limit is 60mph. Only place you can legally do more is on a duel-carriageway, or closed to public track.
MOPEDS may not do more than 35mph. Restriction is not on the nike, but in law. If it can do more than 35mph, it ent a moped, and you are committing three offences
1/ Exceeding statutory speed limit for vehicle type
(Posted speed limit is the maximum permitted speed for the road; different vehicles, may have lower maximum speed limits; such as electrically proppelled vehicles, cars towing a trailer, or... MOPEDS)
2/ Riding a Vehicle other than described on the Registration
(Construction & Use regs deem a moped to be a powered two wheeler, with an engine displacing less than 50cc and having a maximum speed no greater than 35mph. If it can exceed 35mph.... then legally it ent a moped, so not whats on its V5 registration document, )
3/ Riding other than in accordance with licence entitlement
Its not a moped if it goes more than 35mph... its a motorcycle; technically riding a 'de-restricted' moped that hasn't been re-regiostered as a motorcycle is no different to taking the number-plate off a pedal & pop and slapping it on a Suzuki Hyabusa and pretending that is the moped the number-plate and log-book belong to, and as its quite obviousley not a moped, you dont have licence entitlement to be riding it.
Nievety of youth, that 5mph is worth SO much.
125's kid ent fast. even the fastest, non-learner legal 125's like a de-restricted Aprillia RS, with twice the power Learner / A1 laws allow, ent quick, in the greater gambit of all bikes.
Go through the buyers guides and its pretty hard to find much, other than other 125's and a few smaller displacement dirt-bikes or cruisers, that are actually as SLOW as even the quickest 125's.
There is bog all between them; and the book specs are merely a guidline.
The Yamaha YBR is quotyed variousely as capable of between 65 & 70... its a speed machine, but its competant, and it will more regularly achieve real-world 60-65mph velocities.
YZF-R125 is quoted variousely between about 70 & 75mph. It is a slightly more powerful bike; BUT, what they dont tell you is that the acceleration beyond 65mph will mean you wont see 70 all that easily, and when you do, its going to be in more favourable conditions, down hill, with the wind behind you.... and if its incline or weather is against you, it WONT do it.
People also bandy much bigger numbers about for most bikes; and theres the old chestnut of 'indicated' speeds. Ie what the speedo says you are doing, as opposed to what you are REALLY doing.
Most speedos over read, and on little bikes where nieve youngsters believe its so much more important and are that much more gullible.... can over read hugely/
I have a penchant for 125's. My preffered means of masocism is little Honda CB125Twins. Designed in 1977, the full-power variant is, to best of my knowledge still the fastest production four-stroke 125 ever made.
Speedo-accuracy? I have maxed out a CB125 Super-Dream fairly regularly; more reliable GPS readings have credited it with up to about 73mph... snail trails from it after, that average the speed over a few sample spaces, are often a couple of points lower, whiule teh speedo itself can be reading anything from well over 80, to completely off the scale pointing some-where there might be a 95 mark if they took the numbers up that far.
BEST genuionely learner legal 125's; THE fastest you will go with a genuinely Learner-legal A1 complient 14.5bhp, is about 75mph, and you will NOT, even on the best of them be 'cruising' hapily at 70 all day long. Any inconvenient incline, any adverse wind, will ruin your chances of getting to those speeds, or holding them... EVEN if you have the stamina and lack of mechanical sympathy to sit on top of a bike reving its nuts off against the rev limiter, the vibrating making your fingers numb, and the mechanical clatter, making you wince. Of course you could ignore it... BUT? running a little motor at 10/10ths constantly isn't going to see it last too long.
ITS NO BIG DEAL....
And it sure as heck isn;t such a big deal as to be worth spending stupid money on or compromiseing other far more important criteria in a first bike, like how much it will cost to insure; how much it will cost to fix when you bin it; or how much it will cost to repair when you blow the piston bearings!
Stepping from a legal 3.5bhp moped to even a YBR125 which has 3x that power, is a big and noticeable difference. And the performance is unlikely to 'frsutrate you'.
Even stepping off an illegally de-restricted, perhaps 7bhp 50, 10bhp, with far more extra in the lower rev-range, we call 'low down power', will be a revalation.
And you are a young, nieve and inexperienced rider; dont demand too much too soon. A 125, even a 'slow' CG or YBR is still a respectably swift vehicle, that is quick enough to keep with all legal traffic on all but a duel carriageway, and even THERE, a significant proportion, notably the trucks cant go any faster.
In short you do NOT 'need' a 70mph 125... you WANT a 70mph 125, but as a new and inexperienced rider, as yet, you dont know what you need, and have no incling of the real-world difference, and are likely to take the answers that best support what you 'want'....
End of the day its your call.... but ANY 125 ought to do the job....
If not, then the bike is not likely to be the problem, and NO Learner-Lagal / A1 complient 125 is likely to be the answer to it. |
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Protip: discount any review that doesn't specify whether the speed they're claiming is indicated or actual.
This is absolutely not a joke. My Lifan's speedo is absolutely bang on accurate when checked against a GPS and speed-nag signs. It's the only vehicle I've ever owned that's not lied to me.
Consequently, even though I intellectually know better, it really does feel like I'm going slower compared to a bike that's cheerfully lying through it's speedo-drive teeth at me.
So, the best way to see higher speed on a 125 is to change the speedo.
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