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PostPosted: 11:15 - 16 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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After doing some research into sensors, apertures, etc... I still stand by that 13MP means squat. However not alone, but with better optics etc...

Higher MP is beneficial to a point and I believe a 13 MP will take better pictures VS A 8 MP camera with the same optics. I realise that there is a balance though.

The HTC one has 4 MP and has good optics etc.. for low light, but is far off during the day compared to the S4.

I do not dispute that a DSLR with less MP will take better pictures than a phone camera.

However when it comes to one type of product such as a phone, higher MP (Optics to match in most cases as the MP increases) usually means better pictures.


Unless the other phone has a larger/backlit/better pixel array sensor, discounting sensor quality form the manufacturer.
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 16 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

_Will_ wrote:
MinhDinh wrote:
After doing some research into sensors, apertures, etc... I still stand by that 13MP means squat. However not alone, but with better optics etc...

Higher MP is beneficial to a point and I believe a 13 MP will take better pictures VS A 8 MP camera with the same optics. I realise that there is a balance though.

The HTC one has 4 MP and has good optics etc.. for low light, but is far off during the day compared to the S4.

I do not dispute that a DSLR with less MP will take better pictures than a phone camera.

However when it comes to one type of product such as a phone, higher MP (Optics to match in most cases as the MP increases) usually means better pictures.


Unless the other phone has a larger/backlit/better pixel array sensor, discounting sensor quality form the manufacturer.


I'll read up on this. I am out of my depth here but at least I am learning.
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 16 May 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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After doing some research into sensors, apertures, etc... I still stand by that 13MP means squat. However not alone, but with better optics etc...


The megapixel count honestly doesn't do anything for quality as high end camera phones are limited by the optics these days.

The average DSLR kit lens goes soft past 8MP and short of a nifty 50 it takes some serious glass to get the most out of a modern full frame body. By comparison a camera phone has both a positively minute sensor and optics that would be completely unviable in a real camera. Take an indoor shot on your phone, put it on a pc and zoom in close, note how 'hissy' the picture is under close inspection, to cut a long story short, that is down to the sensor not getting enough light due to a combination of sub par optics and the tiny dimensions of the sensor itself, so to get a decent picture the camera is amplifying the signal, smoothing out the noise some and critically performing edge sharpening and various adjustments to get the picture looking punchy on it's screen. Hence whilst you are indeed shooting at 13mp, a rather frightening proportion of that is just mumbo jumbo being generated in software. Drop the resolution right down to 2 or 3mp and watch the noise disappear as hardware begins to become genuinely capable of what's being asked of it Thumbs Up

The only time I'll accept massive megapixel counts as useful is for cropping (shoot straight fool!) and perhaps post processing for video (Anti shake for example), beyond that it's mostly driven by marketing.
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