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Posted: 17:48 - 30 Aug 2013 Post subject: |
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Hello killerbee76 welcone in
Looks a great little bike : As for the tank get it pressure tested to test for holes if ok you can seat it |
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I loved mine when I had it...
https://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j69/willyrobbie/2012-05-12173117.jpg
Watch out for the fuel tap - can get corroded inside easily which was the issue on this one. ____________________ My Bikes: Lifan Beat 125cc '11 -> Suzuki B120P '76 -> Suzuki EN 125-2A '08 -> Honda CG 125 '04 -> Honda CB600F Hornet '98 -> Kawasaki ZZR 600 '99 -> Kawasaki GPZ 500S '95 (Current)
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Posted: 09:27 - 02 Sep 2013 Post subject: Re: Suzuki B120 Student restoration |
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wilz1234 wrote: | killerbee76 wrote: | Hi all
Few quick questions....
Would you guys powdercoat this type of frame or just have it painted? This bike won't see a lot of use but I don't want it re-rusting in a years time!
Is there a specific paint i should use for the engine block? I intend on having the engine all black with the covers and carb chromed.
The tank with the bike has very bad rust inside where it's sat with water in it, if i can't replace it, can they be relined somehow?
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Powdercoating would leave a much stronger finish, but I guess whether you get it powdercoating just depends on your personal preference really. If painted properly it shouldn't start rusting after only a year.
Use a high-temp paint on the engine block.
You can get fuel tank sealant stuff which you mix then swill around the inside of the tank. It's a bit of a last resort really if you can't stop the tank leaking. |
Cheers guys, I'm bidding on a B100 tank on ebay which i think would look good. I'm not overly fussed about keeping it standard. All the fuel lines, tap, tank cap, top of the carb are all missing, so i'll source a new tap from the same era and rebuild the carb.
I don't intend on using this a lot I just love the frame and look of that era! So I have my mind set on powdercoating to protect that frame for the future and not only my time of owning it. Besides some light scuffs and a bit of surface rust the main frame is in very good condition. Only the tail section is damaged where its had some kind of accident where its landed in its back left side. Indicator smashed, Tail section bent, left hand carb cover smashed away, (i only realised this when looking at the Haynes!)
I did win more bits on ebay (Spare oil tank and a battery cover) so they will be prepped and powdercoated with the frame, but i think they were off-white from the factory with a graphic? So they'll be put back to standard.
I've started cutting down the front guard which is by far the worst metal on the bike. I want it about 6 inches forward of the shocks and same at the rear, probably in the same colour as the frame. I'm look at making a shorter seat on a custom frame and having it trimmed in brown leather along with new handle grips and small bits like the kick starter.
I've removed the indicators & will remove the switch and wiring for them and convert the loom correctly to the B100p loom, (cheers Haynes manual ). The only other bit i did was remove more rust and oil and started cleaning the engine for a set of gaskets and a repaint in matt black VHT.
So slow progress but I'm loving the bike and the small 2 stroke oil injector pump is a work of art! I'll go create an account now and start getting some pics for you guys before you get bored
ps. Loving the blue bikes, i'm trying to colour match to BMC MGA powder blue but i want it quite matt not a high gloss...
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Posted: 10:51 - 03 Sep 2013 Post subject: Re: Suzuki B120 Student restoration |
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Tackled the carb last night, much nicer than any SU's I've done previously. I was amazed by how much crud was in the bottom section and the stale fuel had ruined everything inside .
So tonight I'll finish it with the Dremel and a cotton polishing head and then I'll bung a pic up to see what's what. I know these bikes have a cover normally, half of mine is smashed so I'm not sure if I'll replace it or go for a high polish and leave it on display, and just ensure it's all watertight for any outings.
Next up tonight is to try convert the wiring loom to non indicator including removing the relay, switch wires, and power cables to all 4 indicators. Has anyone performed this before? I want the look to look stock when its done so it may have to go to my local Suzuki guy to crimp their OEM plugs on as I can't seem to find the plastic coated type anywhere. So i'll try lay out the look and get a pic of that too.
Pics tonight. |
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Keep at it mate!
Nice little classic commuter, and so far from your pics it looks amazingly rust free and inside the motor casings look very clean too. |
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it'll just be a combo of the clutch cable, and the plates stuck together,
dump the oil, remove the plates, give the steels a light sand to remove any rust, and soak the friction plates in oil over night, the springs will be fine,
pull the head off, decoke the piston, check the bore, scrape out any shit from the exhaust port,
and put back together,
you could get new gaskets, but i probably wouldnt bother,
also while you have the exhaust off you could de-coke that as well,
(block an end and fill the whole exhaust with caustic soda and water, wear gloves as the shit burns, soak over night) then empty, and flush through with the hose,
other than that and the cleaning youve done already, there will be no need to delve any deeper into the engine
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hmmmnz wrote: | it'll just be a combo of the clutch cable, and the plates stuck together,
dump the oil, remove the plates, give the steels a light sand to remove any rust, and soak the friction plates in oil over night, the springs will be fine,
pull the head off, decoke the piston, check the bore, scrape out any shit from the exhaust port,
and put back together,
you could get new gaskets, but i probably wouldnt bother,
also while you have the exhaust off you could de-coke that as well,
(block an end and fill the whole exhaust with caustic soda and water, wear gloves as the shit burns, soak over night) then empty, and flush through with the hose,
other than that and the cleaning youve done already, there will be no need to delve any deeper into the engine
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Hi, cheers that makes sense. I've had the head off already and decoked the piston which was pretty clean, i then put a Dremel over it with a polishing head and made sure everything is smooth and clean. The bore is clean and besides a little bit of rusty wd40 which i wiped out it was clean. The exhaust port is a state and has chunks of crud in it so that's getting a proper clean out, all the rubbish seems to have left the cylinder and say in the down pipe so that seems like a good design if intended. Everything else on the motor has seemed fine, it makes no nasty noises when turned by hand and is VERY clean inside. The whole bike is stripped now and i didn't find any more nasties besides a few torn off screw heads that someone had left me!
The exhaust i'll follow your advice, all the chrome has gone nasty so i may sand it all back and matt black it in vht as I don't want to fork out on a new one. More pics later if i get time to upload them. |
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i used engine "blue" on my CG engine, it came out a treat
the stuff is like water so it goes for miles, i think mine is this stuff
looks a great little bike
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Well getting the shocks off was fun. Suzuki had put one smaller toothed retainer over the larger one that holds the bearings down. Obviously hadn't ever come off and was stuck solid, wd40, heatgun, tapping a screwdriver in to try shock the top one off a bit. The C-spanners have been a 'mare and i've ended up with 2 adjustables and 2 fixed ones because in places on the bike the teeth are different thicknesses? Some take the regular hooked bit and 2 needed the thinner style. I think i've spent more special tools than the bike
Anyway now that carnage is over I've got a bare frame and it's not bad at all, so I'm talking to people about coatings this week and i've decided to not attempt to sand it at home and just get someone to gently shotblast it. I think I'd rather the frame was perfect and only the bits attached to it are bodged by me
I've worked on a few bits so i'll try get some nice pics up midweek to show progress. |
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So Suzuki don't mess around when it comes to doing paint! Had friday off work so i got most of the paint off and tidied some very light surface rust. It's now looking pinkish as i get the last of the primer off then it's all the corners and underneath, I'll get a load more pics up at some point this week but the weekend was a busy one and the poor thing got a bit neglected, i want it powercoated with the engine back in by the end of this month so expect progress |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 10 years, 204 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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