"Pinlock" confusion

[Redbull-matt]

Afternoon all!

I've been using a clear pinlock thing on my helmet recently, but I'm slightly confused.

After browsing a few other forums a few people have said that it's not to be used a nigh ect ect ect...

Well in the early hours of this morning I was riding home and noticed quite a bit of glare from other cars headlights, on lo beam.

I normally get the glare regardless if I use the pinlock or not but is there a different colour "anti glare" or night riding pinlock I can use?

I do irregular shifts at work but mainly weekends I could be riding home at 3-6 am, and it's a pain in the backside when I'm riding through unlit country roads and I get someone with xenon lights coming towards me.

The pinlocks great as I wear glasses and it's hard enough when it's wet and dark and I'm all fogged up anyway so I'd like to keep using it.

Anyway hope everyone's got a nice weekend planed, please feel free to let me know what your using and stay safe!

Cheers
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[Kierran]

I have a pinlock insert in mines and I have had no problems with glare from on coming cars headlights other than misaligned or idiots who dont dip.
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[pinkyfloyd]

Pinlock can and sometimes does cause a tiny bit of double spotting from lights and what not, You soon get used to it. Personally I wouldnt be without pinlock now, yes it took me a day or 2 to get used to night riding with it in but never once did I see it as dangerous.
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[Redbull-matt]

iooi- it was apparently said on packaged and te protective cover that comes on them when first taken out of the package, I do warn you the thread was an American forum and some years old, I can't remember exact details however.

Is there a recommended time limit on these pinlocks? The one I'm using is my dads old helmet and pinlock, he rode his bike maybe a handfull of times, "fair weather rider" comes to mind 😜
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[Ste]

A £50 lid from Aldi or wherever has passed the same safety standard tests as the latest and greatest £600 Arai race rep.

If that £50 lid fits you better than the £600 one then the £50 lid will give you better protection in a crash.

Buying a lid off eBay is going to be a gamble, the chances of it being the lid that will offer you the best fit is slim to none. If you're buying a make and model of a lid that you've got or had before then you'll already know how well it fits you so that's fine.

[Llama-Farmer]

Slight glare/haze from oncoming headlights caused by pinlock is better 90% of the time than no pinlock, cos that usually means misting visor.


Even in this really warm weather we're having this week I can see the visor misting up around the edges of the pinlock... only when I'm sat at lights/junction but still. Now I've experienced pinlock I wouldn't go back to not using it.
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[Dave70]

I'm pretty sure that it states somewhere on the packaging about it not to be used at night time, but I'm not 100% certain. I do know that I've read it somewhere though.

I actually took my pinlock out the other day, as I was giving the visor a thorough clean and decided to leave it out. I'd say that there is some noticeable difference in glare but, not a huge amount.

I'll probably not bother putting it back in, until it gets cold enough for the visor to start misting up again.

I wouldn't but another lid that wasn't pinlock ready though.
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[Redbull-matt]

Just got home from a night shift 5:43 am so i apologise for any spelling mistakes as auto correct isnt work for some silly reason and im shattered!

Thanks for everyones input today and tonight! Really cleared up the confusion!

Its payday for me thursday so my local bike shops going to be getting a visit from me, after measuring my head im halfway between a medium and a large so im not going to gamble on ebay and hope something fits! Im not stupidly rich either and have to save up for my next test and a bigger bike as this 125 is unbelieveably slowwwwwwwwwwwwww....

But i will be sure to get a pinlock ready visor at least because after using one for a few days now its made it a lot easier for me when riding at cold temperatures, i wear glasses and its a pain in the arse enough without the visor fogging up too!

Anyway gang, enjoy your weekend! If anyones out colchester or ipswitch way on sunday after mid day and fancies taking a ride out then feel free to let me know, be good to get the bike out for something other than work or chasing after some tail

Thanks again! Stay safe!
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[wr6133]

I believe you can get a yellow tinted pinlock insert which would remove glare well (I use yellow tinted glasses at night with an open face.... no glare/dazzling.

[Redbull-matt]

So yellow ish tinted glasses make a difference... Might be worth investing in a seperate pinlock then!

Nice helmet too mate

Thank you!
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[Llama-Farmer]

Yellow lens/pinlock can reduce glare slightly.

BUT, consider that it also reduces the amount of light getting through. Not something you want at night.


You have to decide whether the slight reduction in glare outweighs the slight reduction in light transmission.
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[grr666]

I'd say just get a yellow pinlock insert if one is available and you have
to ride in the dark. My eyes are more sensitive to glare than is normal and as a result
I don't really ride at night, If I drive at night I tend to wear yellow
lensed but un-corrective specs, I only need glasses to read.

If I'm tired its even worse. I nearly crashed a Mustang over the side of a cliff and
into the pacific once due to my intolerance of bright lights coming toward me.
It was very nearly the end of me and my wife, I had driven about 500 miles that day
and was tired oncoming big rig truck lit up light a xmas tree, didn't see the L/H bend
in the road, cliff face to my right. I shat a brick I can tell you.
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[Redbull-matt]

It's a fair point you have made regarding less glare / less light transparency! I will have to test it out and I'm sure you ight see a thread in the future with my findings.

And bloody hell!!! Was this in America?? Or are you fortunate enough to have a mustang here in the UK?
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

Never experienced an issue with glare on pinlocks personally. Nor can I recall there being stuff saying you can't use them at night.
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[Redbull-matt]

Grr666- sounds like a right bag of mixed emotions there! Me and my dad have always talked about doing R66 on a couple of Harley's, after watching sons of anarchy it's made us want to push it further!!

I went to a specialist optometrist a few years ago in New Zealand he told me I couldn't have it done due to being far too short sighted...
Think he was talking out of his arse to be honest and the price was ridiculous compared to English prices! So I might get myself booked in again for a test!
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[Llama-Farmer]

[Redbull-matt]

Would be fantastic to hear those points mate, I know it's a pain in the arse for me as I have a fat head as it is on top of that glasses just are annoying to wear but with eyeballs shaped like the cartoon characters head "hey Arnold" contacts are hard to come by!
And don't get me started about sun glasses! Lmao
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