what to buy?(brand new bike)

[dou91e]

Now I have passed my cbt it has taken me all of 2 days to talk my wife to letting me buy a new bike.
As I said to her.... it would be wiser to go new and get all sparkly and new and nice rather than go 2nd hand and want to change bikes every few months or so.
Now the problem is...... I donno what bike I want.
I have narrowed it down to a honda cbf or the yamaha ybr if I go geared bike but( always a but somewere,can never be easy) I am tempted to stay with a scooter and get a piaggio fly 125 .

Basicly i want to buy a bike that will last me worry free for a couple years or so, and be able to hold 50mph with ease on a duel carrageway and get me to work in the morns which all 3 would be able to do.

Budgeting upto £2,600 at most and both the honda and yam are that price with 4.9% piaggio fly is £2200 with 0%


What would you go for?

[Mirey]

I just got a second hand YBR 125 for £900 on ebay....
It's in great condition but it's too slow for me. As soon as I pass my test (after Christmas) I'll be moving up.

You'll immediately lose a ton of money if you buy new, and it's your first bike, so why bother?

I would say go to a dealer and see which one you prefer sitting on though. From what I can tell there really isn't much difference between modern 125s - just looks / riding position. (though I'm new as well, but I did a decent amount of research before getting my YBR)

[dou91e]

You'll immediately lose a ton of money if you buy new, and it's your first bike, so why bother


you only lose a ton of money if you plan of not keeping it, I look at it that im happy to 'lose' a average of £500 a year on a bike so if i was to own a new bike for say 4-5 years then the value of the bike after scrap value is just a bonus.

Obv i could buy a £1000 2nd hand bike and not lose anything, But I fancy the fact with a new bike there is no MOT for 4 years (n.ireland) and 2 years warranty etc.

[Teflon-Mike]

Some-one has to buy new bikes or there'd be no second hand ones.
If you can afford it, will appreciate and enoy it; do it.
Brand new wheels under your bu is the best you are ever likely to have, and for a newb... means anything that goes wrong, is probably YOU, not the bike!
As for the choice between the two? Well, you haven't picked a Chinese lottery, or gone for a teenage posing pouch. You have short listed two sensible, practical, good VFM motorcycles... that there ISN'T a lot to choose between.
Honda's built in India and, they have had a few QC issues with them; YBR is built in China, and while fiish doesn't seem as good as it might be on a Honda, seems less variable. Honda is a little bigger framed, and better appointed. YBR a tad cheaper and a little easier to look after. Biggest issues likely to tp the balence between them is how they feel i the metal on the dealers show-room floor, ad what you can get the man in the suit to chuck in to sweeten the deal, really.
Your talking to the wrong people here.... get the shop, kick some tyres, wave the cheque book about and see if you can get a top-box and decent lock and chain, maybe even get the chaps in boiler suit round the back to fit a factory alarm for the ask price, if nothing off it.
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[andyscooter]

if you decide on scooters look at the honda pcx as well

smack kon your budget but a cracking scoot (just dont try jumping bmws with them )
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[Wednesday Biker]

I bought a brand new YBR.
I didn't regret it as it was 0% finance and just before they went up £500 but with hindsight I would buy an older one with maybe 10k or so miles on it.
You lose a lot of money buying new and to keep the warranty going you'll probably end up buying an expensive service plan that a 125 doesn't really need.
The new ones rust like hell.In 6 months I could see plenty of rust on mine and the exhaust looked quite bad.The cheap tyres are dangerous and don't last.
If you buy an older bike for say a grand,it will probably have newer decent brand tyres on it and if it was going to rust it would have already done so.For some reason the older bikes seem to be better made.
I wasn't bothered about passing my test when I bought mine but after a year I'd taken and passed it and wanted something bigger.
Its not a mistake to buy new,especially if you are going to keep the bike 2 years or so.You get some piece of mind but tbh the Ybrs are pretty reliable,so you shouldn't have any problems with a second hand one.
Speed wise the YBR I had would do 80 down this big hill and 70-75 on flat, depending on the wind.Obviously the clocks are out but aren't all 125 clocks.
There are faster and more expensive choices but the YBR is a very good bike.But as I said I'd look for a second hand one that's been past the point at which it would rust.
Dealers give them a lick of paint but if you look close at the pipe and footpeg rests you can see they have been resprayed.I imagine in 2 months the rust will be back through.

[Rogerborg]

[wr6133]

That much money..... full licence and big bike (2nd hand)

If you really want a 125 I'd get the YBR over the CBF but you are insane to buy either brand new.

[dou91e]

ok I had decided on the ybr but I have just been offered a 09 CBF with 6500 miles MOT and tax until april for the princly sum of £1,100
with a proper protected jacket and suit, proper boots,a helmet that cost him £150,a rain cover and tank bag.

Will be buying it tomorrow(well have to give him £300 deposit with rest on monday tbh) But i think its a bit of a bargain with a brucey bonus on top tbh.

[matto]

sounds like a cracking deal...

...and with the money you've spent you can start thinking about a full license...

...and you'll not lose any money on it when you sell it on for a bigger bike...

...in 6 months time See you then for a 'what big bike' thread

[Rogerborg]

[Dave70]

[dou91e]

I have known the fella that is selling the bike for years tbh, I know hes more fussy than I am and I am a fussy sod. It is a bike I said to him I would buy should he sell 2 years ago. It just is one of those right time lucky sod moments for me. I will post pics next week and tbh in 3-4 months time when I have got the cash again in the bank I will most likely be asking if a triumph speed triple( I saw and I wanted ) would be a wise 1st big bike lol

[Tamsin]

I'm not sure I agree with you on the dont bother with a 125 thing Roger. Granted I'm only on a CBT and been riding 6/7 months but a 125 is actually way more than I need and although I'm planning on doing the full A next year I'm not planning on upgrading to a bigger bike anytime soon. Then again, I'm hardly a speed demon anyway

[wr6133]

[SandTiger]

[CG Sam]

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[pinkyfloyd]

[dou91e]

well here is my new bike. deposit paid pick it up on tuesday.

[Val]

Congrats
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[Rogerborg]

[Rogerborg]

Paddy-plate?
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[dou91e]

I do live in belfast, so a N.ireland plate.