Full Moped/Motorcycle Theory Confusion

[dairyleaDunka...]

I've searched about this on the forum but since all the posts are a bit old, and things seem to keep changing re licencing I thought I'd ask.

It says here https://www.gov.uk/driving-theory-test/who-needs-to-take-the-test

[Rogerborg]

Not a flipping clue.

Have you tried booking a module 1 test? What does Computer Say?
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[matto]

You need to do a theory test. I took my car test in 1993 and could also ride a 50 without l plates, but had to do a theory when I took my bike test in 2012.

[matto]

Actually I misread, you don't state how old you are... Makes the question rather hard to answer

[dairyleaDunka...]

[matto]

Ahh, no you don't have a moped license unless you have taken a test on one. And you'll need a theory test for the new class of license.

[MC]

[dairyleaDunka...]

[Kickstart]

[matto]

Hmm lots of confusion between the old grandfather(?) rights to ride a moped, the slightly newer moped license and the new license tests.

If you took you driving test in this century you need a cbt for any bike/scooter and to take a theory test and mod1 and 2 for anything bigger.

[Kickstart]

[MC]

[Kickstart]

Hi

Have a feeling it depends on when the licence was issued. There seem to now be 3 different licence categories for mopeds, and if they only get an AM category then a 16 year old would be committing an offence by riding a 30mph moped .

It would seem there is no such thing as a moped licence. Merely a licence with groups AM or P on it:-

Category AM

You can drive 2-wheeled vehicles with a maximum design speed of over 25km/h (15.5mph) but not more than 45km/h (28mph).

This category also includes light quad bikes with:

unladen mass of not more than 350kg (not including batteries if it’s an electric vehicle)
maximum design speed of over 25km/h (15.5mph) but not more than 45km/h (28mph)

Category P

You can drive 2-wheeled vehicles with a maximum design speed of over 45km/h (28mph) but not more than 50km/h (31mph).

Its engine size must not be more than 50cc if powered by an internal combustion engine.

It is licence category q that still has the grandfather rights for the old derestricted mopeds with pedals.

All the best

Keith
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[MC]

I was going to add committing an offence that anyone would care about I think the point of the AM category was the quad bike addition, rather than reigning in mopeds by 3mph, to save kittens.

I did wonder about category q, and why I had it on my license.

Category Q

You can drive 2-wheeled vehicles with:

an engine size not more than 50cc if powered by an internal combustion engine
a maximum design speed of no more than 25km/h (15.5mph)

I thought that would be the old Puch Maxi's, but they don't even fall into that?
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[matto]

Ooh every day is a school day, I was wrong about that, sorry.

I'm certain you still will need to do a theory test for a category A license though as you haven't taken a moped test.

[dairyleaDunka...]