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Posted: 10:12 - 30 Sep 2014 Post subject: |
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Gears on a bike aren't difficult, it's just a little odd, the co-ordination required to do something different with each foot/hand (at least I found it tricky at first).
Also if you've never driven a car or geared bike, you might find you stall a bit at first, until you get used to the clutch.
I reckon you could learn gears in an afternoon practicing in a car park or something. Gears are different on a bike to a car, being a sequential box. ____________________ Yamaha MT-03 '08 (crashed)
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Morning!
Gears are easier than you think. I was on a moped for 3 years, hopped on a geard bike last November for a taster session, waited till March for another lesson then pased mod 2 in June.
If you are worried look for a training school near you that offers a free get on session. It will put your mind at rest and give you a taste for gears. I promise you wont want to go back! ____________________ Passed Mod 2 19th June 2014. First 'Big Bike' Ducati Monster 600 |
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Posted: 10:26 - 30 Sep 2014 Post subject: |
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You'll be fine, although you will have to go through a period of adjustment as you rev the nuts off or stall it out waiting for the non-existent CVT to kick in.
Braking is also an issue as you'll be making use of the rear brake on your scoot a lot, and that's the clutch hand on a geared bike. Not a huge deal, but try to at least use both brakes on the scoot then transition to more right hand (front) braking as you get closer to doing A2.
You will get it, it'll just take a bit of re-learning.
Are you planning on going via a training school, or buying your own A2 test bike and having a go yourself after some "private road" practice? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Bryan420 wrote: | Planning to get a custom-cruiser around December/January time. |
A 125? Lardy, slow, relatively hard to manoeuvre, they cost a surprising amount, and you'll be limiting your choice and passing up bargains.
I'd suggest that (if you get your own 125 geared bike at all) that you just get any good condition used Japanese branded commuter bike like a CG or YBR, use it for practicing, get your A2 license ASAP after you hit 19, then punt on the 125 and get on to the bike that you really want. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I wouldn't go for a cruiser style bike to learn on, they don't have great handling, being heavy they're gutless, a lot of them struggle to reach over 50mph, and the riding position can be uncomfortable. If you really want a cruiser wait until you have a full licence then at least you can get something with a proper cruiser engine. To learn on go for YBR125, CBF125 CBR125 or similar. ____________________ They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa, hey-hey,
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Posted: 19:34 - 30 Sep 2014 Post subject: |
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I can see where you're coming from about the cruisers.
However the second style of bike I really like is the 'Dirt Bike' (Don't know any makes or actually style name ) style. When I went to my local motorcycle shop they had a few there. They seem lightweight and easy to handle.
Would any of you recommend these style of bikes for a beginners bike?
(Sorry if these questions sound stupid. Haven't ridden anything other than a 125 automatic scooter) ____________________ I'm a new Biker. Bought my first bike a few weeks ago. |
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Of the two, I'd suggest that you go with the "dirt" bike, by which I mean a trail / enduro / supermoto bike with road tyres rather than knobblies. Upright, lightish, narrow, easy to manoeuvre, good visibility. A tendency towards smaller tanks and being nicked by the local pikeys would be the downsides. Really, I wouldn't keep one outside without a serious (Almax, Pragmasis) chain and a ground anchor.
To be fair, I didn't really enjoy the SM125s that I tried, but other brands are available and they do make more sense than cruisers as a commuter or learning tool. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Rogerborg wrote: | Of the two, I'd suggest that you go with the "dirt" bike, by which I mean a trail / enduro / supermoto bike with road tyres rather than knobblies. Upright, lightish, narrow, easy to manoeuvre, good visibility. A tendency towards smaller tanks and being nicked by the local pikeys would be the downsides. Really, I wouldn't keep one outside without a serious (Almax, Pragmasis) chain and a ground anchor.
To be fair, I didn't really enjoy the SM125s that I tried, but other brands are available and they do make more sense than cruisers as a commuter or learning tool. |
Thank you for your advice. I really appreciate it. Although I've still got some saving up to do I think personally now I'll look for the trail styled bikes.
As you mentioned about pikeys, I've already had first hand experience with them. I've had a group of them forcefully try and take my bike also my friend was rammed off the road by a van full of them, on his brand new bike.
Thanks again. ____________________ I'm a new Biker. Bought my first bike a few weeks ago. |
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I had an XR, because that's the bike I had lusted after for a number of years. In hindsight it was completely the wrong bike.
Knobblies are crap in the wet, with longer suspension travel you get a lot of fork dive, brakes are generally smaller and crap(er) on dirt bikes.
Plus points are the upright riding position (apart from when it's windy), being able to go up kerbs easily, and generally I just like the styling and feel like a boss on one ____________________ Yamaha MT-03 '08 (crashed)
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Bryan420 wrote: | I can see where you're coming from about the cruisers.
However the second style of bike I really like is the 'Dirt Bike' (Don't know any makes or actually style name ) style. When I went to my local motorcycle shop they had a few there. They seem lightweight and easy to handle.
Would any of you recommend these style of bikes for a beginners bike?
(Sorry if these questions sound stupid. Haven't ridden anything other than a 125 automatic scooter) |
Get one of these as youre probably going to be on a 125 for a while. It has the full 15BHP which i think only the KTM Duke 125 has but its more reliable.
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikereviews/searchresults/Bike-Reviews/Yamaha/Yamaha-WR125X-2009-current/
Get the X (super moto style) rather than the R (trailie style) as realisaticaly your going to be road riding and its has nice fat grippy tires compared with things like YBRs which have skinny round skis.
Whats your budget? |
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4-5k, at 18? I'd just stay on the scooter until you can do your A2. Geared 125's are a chore anyway, your always going for a gear change, thinking about a gear change, wanting a gear change but know you'll start going backwards on that big hill if you do. ____________________ Yamaha MT-03 '08 (crashed)
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