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WD Forte wrote: | Yep I wanted to add a
Whuut?
too, but you young whippersnappers are too damn fast.
Louie
A years project ? seriously?
I know a few old bikers who's hearing is dodgy, but who's to say
this isn't due to age, wear and tear, years in heavy/noisy industry,
the aforementioned loud music, inherited conditions
or a mixture of the lot?
We already know the adverse effects of excess noise on the eardrums dont we?
singling out motocycles seems like make work to me. |
Well you're right, there are a lot of factors which influence hearing loss/deterioration. I don't need to specifically single out bikes, as it already been proven to damage hearing.
If you're doing 70 and don't have plugs in, the dB's inside the helmet range between 100-115. Now doing this speed for 15 minutes will cause TTS (temporary threshold shift), basically the light ringing sound you may get sometimes. continuing this over an extended period of time leads to more permanent damage.
Of course, most journeys are more than 15 minutes, and multiplied over 5, 10, 40 years of riding, its going to inflict some damage. |
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Go down Madeira Cafe much? You should do, great crowd down there...even the ones who ride trikes are alright...
Yes, I bother about my hearing, which is why I wear earplugs. Every trip without exception. ____________________ Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter won't mind - Dr. Seuss |
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lra1000 wrote: | Well, many police officers every year sue the Home Office due to hearing loss. |
How many?
lra1000 wrote: | It costs the government 100's of thousands in fact. |
How many 100's of thousands, in fact?
lra1000 wrote: | If a solution can be designed to combat this and minimise compensation claims, then it seems worthwhile. |
Designed, developed and brought to market.
lra1000 wrote: | Don't really see whats so funny about that. |
I imagine you don't, because totes SRS. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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-Matt- wrote: | Done the survey FWIW. Personally i've never given it much consideration; so many other things like loud music are just as likely to damage my hearing I expect. I have started wearing earplugs in the past few months after years riding without them, but not because i'm worried about hearing loss - I tryed them one day and found it made riding a lot more enjoyable, didn't really acknowledge before how distracting and annoying the noise got on long journeys on the motorway etc.
Don't see too much problem with these 'bike' surveys, if there is going to be some 'research' done, bike-related stuff might not be a bad thing I suppose [although I wouldn't expect many people to be bothered to do them in all honesty]. Although; maybe be careful for what you wish for
lra1000 wrote: | Well, many police officers every year sue the Home Office due to hearing loss. It costs the government 100's of thousands in fact. If a solution can be designed to combat this and minimise compensation claims, then it seems worthwhile. | Sounds like something the EU legilsation folk could jump on to try force everyone to ride ear-friendly, noise-free electric bikes or something in the future because; ''saving hearing'' of course |
Cheers Matt! Yeah as with everyone and as I expected, its never a noticeable level of damage on the day - and there will always be larger factors.
I need this survey because it gives background depth to my report. But you would be surprised, 48 people have done it so far, so better than expected! |
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Rogerborg wrote: | lra1000 wrote: | Well, many police officers every year sue the Home Office due to hearing loss. |
How many?
lra1000 wrote: | It costs the government 100's of thousands in fact. |
How many 100's of thousands, in fact?
lra1000 wrote: | If a solution can be designed to combat this and minimise compensation claims, then it seems worthwhile. |
Designed, developed and brought to market.
lra1000 wrote: | Don't really see whats so funny about that. |
I imagine you don't, because totes SRS. |
Can I have some of your spare time please? Seems like you have a lot. |
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lra1000 wrote: | Can I have some of your spare time please? Seems like you have a lot. |
Oh, burrrrned.
Test passed.
Straight up, we get several of these survey requests every year from design students with great intentions but no means of getting their designs into production. Without that transfer into reality, it is a bit "Do my homework, mister." ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Aged 45, biking since 16, lots of long distance rides (at speeds over 70 ) including stints as a courier and daily 45 minute high speed commutes. In the past two years I've started to wear earplugs because 'it's good for me' on motorway journeys, but more often than not I forget to put them in.
No tinnitus despite suffering regular TTS (and I can still clearly hear ranges above 17.5KHz) ____________________ Make mine a Corona. |
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at 42 i have moderate hearing loss, I assumed this was down to my average of 60,000 miles a year on bikes, djing in my 20/30s and working alongside some extensive sound systems.
But no, both specialists have said it's not that sort of hearing loss and it's not the cause.
Hereditary apparently, I'll blame the parents when I see them tomorrow.
So, listen to loud music, ride bikes and don't go deaf. ____________________ Nobby the Bastard: How yo tell the difference between the actual japanese and her just screaming because she's had live fish stuck up her arse? [url=https://www.nicks-shop.co.uk/bcf-goodies-15-c.aspGet BCF stickers and things here[/url] Reflective helmet stickers - Legal requirement in france - Clicky |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 174 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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