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Posted: 22:32 - 16 Oct 2014 Post subject: |
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While I've been waiting for bits and repairs I've been researching more into it's history.
We know it was made in November 1974 but as the records show it disappeared until Feb 1983.
After a lot of input from various knowledgeable people it would appear the Chassis plate is the wrong type.
https://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad297/750RK/LandRover/DSCF0674.jpg
This type of Chassis plate wasn't used until the late 70's early 80's and then rarely, in fact so rare that the companies that re-manufacture plates don't list it. There are no odd holes from previous plates being fitted so it seems the whole bulkhead was replaced sometime between the late 70's and early 80's before it re-appeared as an RN vehicle. To replace the bulkhead would require a complete strip down and with the new plate being the incorrect type there is a possibility it was returned to Solihull to do it which would be extremely rare as the REME had their own workshops for this type of thing.
I have been in discussion with the Royal Logistics Corp (RLC) who have no record of the vehicle from its chassis No. and no record of the Contract it was built for so it's pretty definite it wasn't an Army vehicle. With this in mind I have now put in a request to the MOD for the vehicles history if held from the old ADPCON computer management system or the Merlin management system and a request to the RAF Museum in Hendon to see if they have a record of the Chassis No. or the Contract No.
I suspect the RAF won't be able to find anything as they can only reference their records by Registration No. but you never know.
The MOD may well have destroyed all records by now but hopefully not, storage is after all cheap and I know of other vehicles who's dates in service were both before and after mine that were recorded and the records were retrievable. |
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I must admit to having a bit of Land rover want now, as I watched an episode of wheeler dealer's last night where they pimped out an old County 90 SWB that had a RV8, and they popped In a hairy cam for some more raw V8 sound!
There's a bloke around the corner from me with a Defender 90, presume it's got the TD5 engine? Anyways it's got a big exhaust and a snorkel on it, and the turbo whistle is excellent too, almost as good as a vintage diesel train! |
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Posted: 14:53 - 26 Oct 2014 Post subject: |
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Dropped into Halfords in Tottenham this afternoon just for a look about and found this reduced to £25.
https://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad297/750RK/Odds%20and%20ends/DSCF1032.jpg
As they normally sell for £80-£120 I'm happy to have got it for £25 as it will help the set up of the carb.
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Posted: 20:41 - 07 Nov 2014 Post subject: |
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Still been working on the vent panel. All the chemical metal skimming and reshaping has been completed and the undercoat of Zinc182 has been done. Parts need rubbing down to remove runs and redoing but overall it is completed.
https://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad297/750RK/LandRover/DSCF1043.jpg
The next step will be to spray it in deep bronze Green Synthetic Enamel which is a good hard wearing coach paint. Problem here is I need new spray guns and moisture traps so these have been ordered.
A mate is getting me these for work I did on his bike.
https://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad297/750RK/LandRover/LVLPsprayguns.jpg
And I've ordered a few of these from Ebay.
https://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad297/750RK/LandRover/Moisturetrap.jpg
I should have a set of 5 wheels turning up on Monday, thank you pdg so will eventually be able to fit the correct size tyres instead of the oversize ones I have.
I also found a litre of Deep Bronze Green paint hidden away that looks like it can still be used so that's saved me a bit of cash as well.
We have worked out a bit more on the history of the Land Rover. Sometime between its first date in service and 1983 it had a new chassis, new bulkhead and new rear bodywork. It also had an engine at a later date and although supplied with a soft top became a hardtop at some point and then was converted back to soft top on disposal. With this in mind there is very little left on it that is actually original. |
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Posted: 18:26 - 10 Nov 2014 Post subject: |
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pdg turned up earlier today and picked up my old lathe which I gave him. This was not fun to load. It's an old S&B lathe and was almost completely made of cast iron so weighs probably just short of 1/2 a ton. pdg Stripped off as much as he could which was surprisingly easy for something built 50+ years ago.
Loading it into the back of the Discovery was not fun, the cast iron body was I estimate over 200 kilo's by itself. We winched up using ratchet straps while wiggling it and then employed the high lift jacks.
https://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad297/750RK/Lathe/2014-11-10144809.jpg
All done in the end after 3 or so hours and many cups of tea and roll ups.
As a thank you for the lathe pdg brought me over some wheels he had which are 5" wide, Land Rover short wheelbase wheels which will be perfect for the new tyres I need in 6.50x16 size, the original very unusual size.
These wheels will obviously need cleaning up and then I will be getting them powder coated, I expect this won't be cheap so can wait a while.
https://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad297/750RK/LandRover/2014-11-10171144.jpg |
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That panel is looking good now!
Are all the panels alloy or steel or a bit of both on these?
It will certainly be another epic off roader when it's all done.
Are you going for originality/std or are you building it like Binge's truck to be a mud monster?
And finally do you ever feel tempted to look for an old RV8 to transplant into her? |
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Posted: 20:24 - 10 Nov 2014 Post subject: |
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stevo as b4 wrote: | That panel is looking good now!
Are all the panels alloy or steel or a bit of both on these? |
All the panels are Burma bright aluminium except the bulkhead and vent panel which rot like nothing you would believe.
stevo as b4 wrote: | It will certainly be another epic off roader when it's all done. |
More of an all-roader than an off-roader. Primarily it will be for use on road but the place in Wales although in South Wales has some pretty horrendous weather at times so it will be used out there I suspect in the winter.
stevo as b4 wrote: | Are you going for originality/std or are you building it like Binge's truck to be a mud monster? |
Pretty much original, its such a rare example it would be a pity to abuse it, its also had so many different configurations while in service that I can make it usable while still original. As its now going to be a hard top I am seriously thinking about fitting a headliner and side lining but this will cost around £750 so not cheap at all.
Got a link to Binge's truck?
stevo as b4 wrote: | And finally do you ever feel tempted to look for an old RV8 to transplant into her? |
Much as I would like the power the running gear isn't really up to it so you have to be careful. With a little work I should be able to get a reasonable power hike to keep up with modern traffic. |
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Posted: 10:33 - 11 Nov 2014 Post subject: |
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Loading it into the back of the Discovery was not fun, the cast iron body was I estimate over 200 kilo's by itself. We winched up using ratchet straps while wiggling it and then employed the high lift jacks.
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What do you mean 'not fun'? I can't think of anything better than manhandling nigh on 1/4ton of old iron, in the rain I might even do a project thread on the rebuild...
Those rims should clean up alright, they seem good structurally - getting them blasted and powdercoated shouldn't be a bank-breaking thing - although adding that to the cost of a set of (v. rare) 6.50's is going to cost more than a trip to the pub
The lightweight - after casting my expert (yeah, right) eye over it is better condition than the pictures shown heretofore imply. If it were simply a 'get it on the road' proposition it would be quick and relatively easy. From what I gather though, pup is going for a decent restoration of service spec which is going to take longer and cost more, but the outcome will be worth the effort.
I'm pretty much in agreement about the rV8 idea, the 2.25p isn't a bad engine. In decent tune it's nice to drive. 'Keeping up with modern traffic' is also quite subjective. My series 3, which I've been using almost daily this year, might have a 'comfortable' top speed of about 50mph, but it's very usable. What I'm saying is modern traffic is actually pretty damn slow, especially anywhere near a town. Fitting an overdrive might help out on main roads, but contrary to popular belief they don't add a lot of speed, although the ~5mph they add is more comfortable to do. Even on the motorway, being able to travel at about 55 isn't going to hold people up.
The other thing to think about while wanting to increase power is that while you might want 2014 speed, you're controlling it with 1940's steering and brakes... Ok, the car was made in the 70's, but the design of the running gear didn't change.
I'm quite looking forward to seeing the progress, especially having seen it in the metal now. ____________________ Any and all advice given should not be followed - if you have to ask it means you don't know so get a man in to do it for you. |
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Remember seeing that old girl years ago, glad you're doing it up. |
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I'm agreeing with the views of Sickpup and PDG on the sense of retaining the solid old 2.25 petrol, but with some sensible modifications/improvements such as better carb/ignition and uprated cooling etc.
But I've just seen this link and thought of the lols!
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Posted: 20:39 - 16 Nov 2014 Post subject: |
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The spray guns are here now...
https://i945.photobucket.com/albums/ad297/750RK/Odds%20and%20ends/DSCF1119.jpg
The compressor I have has a pressure control integrated into the outlet so I can easily drop the working pressure down to the required 20psi. I don't need a separate moisture trap as these are integrated into the spray guns.
I've got the paint, found a new 1 litre can in the bottom of my toolbox which will be fine to spray once I've added 10% thinners so now I just need to wait for a day when it doesn't rain for hours. |
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I seem to remember the RAf used to race supercharged Lightweights |
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Sounds like there was a lot of fun to be had there!
I may know of where a 2litre Rover engine+ big snail is sat doing nothing useful! |
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Out of interest, why three spray guns?
At a guess, the one to the left is physicly smaller for detail work/hard to get at areas. The other two I can't see a difference with besides the controls being different colours. ____________________ Please be aware that the above post may be full of complete nonsense.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 163 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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