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daverwheeler |
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daverwheeler Renault 5 Driver
Joined: 27 Oct 2009 Karma :
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Posted: 17:36 - 26 Feb 2015 Post subject: Honda reg/rect upgrade |
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Just a quick thread for anyone like me, who's fed up with older Honda rectifiers.
Anyone who owns a Honda of a certain age, will probably be aware of the problem with crap regulator/rectifiers.
I used to own an early CBR600 that went through a couple of them, and my current 95 Fireblade has just destroyed it's second one.
The last one to go was supposed to be a more reliable upgraded version, obviously not!
These Regulators use old diode technology, which is unreliable, so after doing some research, I found the best one to fit is a MOSFET type, fitted to most modern kit.
These are available second hand from various bikes, with model numbers FH012, FH016 etc.
I bought mine as a kit, new on ebay from a company in the states, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/380705241034?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I paid the extra for a new unit, the latest FH20AAA and the proper plugs and terminals as I wanted this to be the last time I fit one!!
Be aware though, I had to pay £3.96 customs charge, not a problem, but the good old Post Office whacked on a £8 handling charge AND I had to go pick it up!
So, the bits arrived, with a good set of instructions:
https://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg640/daverwheeler/P2267547.jpg
This is the old unit, situated under the right hand side panel.
https://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg640/daverwheeler/P2267549.jpg
The 2 units together
https://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg640/daverwheeler/P2267552.jpg
Here's the old socket
https://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg640/daverwheeler/P2267553.jpg
Wires stripped and ready
https://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg640/daverwheeler/P2267555.jpg
Quite simple to wire up, the 3 yellow wires from the alternator can go in any order in the grey plug, and just a live and earth in the black plug.
One plug on,
https://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg640/daverwheeler/P2267556.jpg
I crimped and soldered the terminals, and glad I got the correct weather proof plugs, makes it a proper job.
You could just crimp on terminals and plug straight into the unit.
https://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg640/daverwheeler/P2267557.jpg
All fitted, just need to wrap the loom. I did remember to trial fit the side panel for clearance before I drilled the new holes!
https://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg640/daverwheeler/P2267559.jpg
Fired up, a nice 14 volts at 1500 revs. stays at 14.3 max. |
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kramdra World Chat Champion
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Posted: 20:11 - 28 Feb 2015 Post subject: |
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You crimped with pliers, shit. I could pull those off with my fingers. Your original, old, +/- wires also look far too skinny for the job - wrong size for the crimps.
A decent ratchet crimper is only 7 quid. If you chose to do it properly
Most bikes use regs from the same company, its not a Honda part that fails. Most of the time the wiring is also bad, and probably part of the cause.
Your regulator is still a shunt type, mosfets are more likely to kill stator on bikes where the stator runs very hot as standard. They make switching regulators, which in theory are much better. No load on stator also means more powar. |
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daverwheeler |
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daverwheeler Renault 5 Driver
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Posted: 00:28 - 01 Mar 2015 Post subject: |
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kramdra wrote: | You crimped with pliers, shit. I could pull those off with my fingers. Your original, old, +/- wires also look far too skinny for the job - wrong size for the crimps.
A decent ratchet crimper is only 7 quid. If you chose to do it properly
Most bikes use regs from the same company, its not a Honda part that fails. Most of the time the wiring is also bad, and probably part of the cause.
Your regulator is still a shunt type, mosfets are more likely to kill stator on bikes where the stator runs very hot as standard. They make switching regulators, which in theory are much better. No load on stator also means more powar. |
MMM so the standard Honda wiring is not up to the job?
and good luck pulling the terminals off with your fingers, soldered after crimping, as I said in the post. |
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