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The UK’s most persistently dangerous road has been identified as the A285 between Chichester and Petworth. The route, which runs north to south linking the A27 with the A272, has come top of the list of the UK’s "persistently higher risk roads"
The A272 is my favourite road in the south, the A825 is 2nd/3rd |
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Almost same here my favorite road is A285 followed by A283
A285 section after you pass Duncton and the Quary is the best road ever
If you look at the fatalities it is not that bad actually. There are only 8 motorcycle ones compared to total 24 on A283 and A285 in this area.
You need to choose Chichester as local authority. And there are much worse roads around based on the stats:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15975720
And the biggest problem I have with any safety stats is that they dehumanise the issue. From personal point of view even one fatality is too much.
rideslikean00b wrote: | "Staggering £0.4bn"?
The safest roads are the ones with the newest tarmac, fewest potholes, least amount of traffic, logical layouts, adequate signage etc. Which is to say, not very many in the UK! |
Actually it is the opposite. The better the roads (more wide and with good tarmac) the more and serious are the accidents. This is the main reason the UK is with the lowest road accidents in the EU. It has the smallest roads. If the road is narrow with many bends and low visibility you cannot overtake too much and cannot drive too fast - hence less accidents.
On the plus side that means the best country lanes for riding ____________________ Adrian Monk: Unless I'm wrong, which, you know, I'm not...
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Well according to the news yesterday my home town, Grimsby has the highest rate of road accidents in the UK! I think I had better upgrade my armour then. |
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Jerry B wrote: | The A40 between Llandovery and Aberystwyth is a stunning road, and one of the 3 most dangerous roads in Wales, bugger! In fact Wales has a lot of dangerous roads, damn.
Very interesting to see this report. |
I reckon that's because it's not only a nice twisty stretch for riding, but also a major tourist route. Clearly the two don't mix! That's why I prefer the roads of mid Wales. Far less touristy traffic - in fact not much traffic at all. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I agree! Mid and north wales B-roads and routes through Snowdonia, are really good biking roads and many a great ride was had on my 600 up there.
Though rural B-roads and mountain passes can be pretty dangerous roads, when you take into account poor surfaces, loads of mountain gravel on the road, and sheep and their left behinds.
There's always been plenty of cases of say, Kev on his new R1 enjoying the top end rush on these roads and around the next bend becoming a single vehicle fatality, often in a fairly gruesome way.
The conditions, and hazards might not be ideal/safest, but when such accidents happen it's often that Kev was going batshit fast and got carried away.
I do still have a feeling that it's wrong, and unfair of Kev then to tie up mountain rescue, police, ambulance and Air ambulance for hours in slow to access terrain, to recover the injured rider or body.
It's no different IMO for people that go down exploring 100's of feet underground in caves and pot holes either. When it goes to shit and someone is nearly dead or badly injured, they suddenly expect loads of expensive medical assistance and specialist rescue, that could arguably be better spent on day to day incidents or a bus crash on the M6 etc, where it really is needed by the many, not the odd thrill seeker that though fuck it im going for it over the mountain mile etc. |
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stevo as b4 wrote: | I agree! Mid and north wales B-roads and routes through Snowdonia, are really good biking roads and many a great ride was had on my 600 up there.
Though rural B-roads and mountain passes can be pretty dangerous roads, when you take into account poor surfaces, loads of mountain gravel on the road, and sheep and their left behinds.
There's always been plenty of cases of say, Kev on his new R1 enjoying the top end rush on these roads and around the next bend becoming a single vehicle fatality, often in a fairly gruesome way.
The conditions, and hazards might not be ideal/safest, but when such accidents happen it's often that Kev was going batshit fast and got carried away.
I do still have a feeling that it's wrong, and unfair of Kev then to tie up mountain rescue, police, ambulance and Air ambulance for hours in slow to access terrain, to recover the injured rider or body.
It's no different IMO for people that go down exploring 100's of feet underground in caves and pot holes either. When it goes to shit and someone is nearly dead or badly injured, they suddenly expect loads of expensive medical assistance and specialist rescue, that could arguably be better spent on day to day incidents or a bus crash on the M6 etc, where it really is needed by the many, not the odd thrill seeker that though fuck it im going for it over the mountain mile etc. |
There is much hypocrisy spoken on this subject, and I'm not going to add to it. But air ambulance services often rely on contributions from people like myself, who have had need of them and now feel we owe something back and make contributions to that particular pot. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: | I reckon that's because it's not only a nice twisty stretch for riding, but also a major tourist route. Clearly the two don't mix! That's why I prefer the roads of mid Wales. Far less touristy traffic - in fact not much traffic at all. |
People often talk with reverence about the twisties in Wales, I really need to get up there one weekend when it's sunny. Any good reasonably priced hotels near some of the better roads?
stevo as b4 wrote: | There's always been plenty of cases of say, Kev on his new R1 enjoying the top end rush on these roads and around the next bend becoming a single vehicle fatality, often in a fairly gruesome way.
The conditions, and hazards might not be ideal/safest, but when such accidents happen it's often that Kev was going batshit fast and got carried away. |
Haha my uncle is called Kev and he rides an R1. Never had an off out on the roads, so he tells me. Insanely good rider, I could be in the saddle another ten years and still not be able to keep up with him.
Pigeon wrote: | The A272 is my favourite road in the south, the A825 is 2nd/3rd |
Fair play, the A272 has some nice stretches, I was often using it for my work journey towards Winchester and of course it's right near Loomies Cafe. The tarmac is in very good condition on the parts I used regularly. Plenty of long sweeping corners. ____________________ .
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rideslikean00b wrote: |
People often talk with reverence about the twisties in Wales, I really need to get up there one weekend when it's sunny. Any good reasonably priced hotels near some of the better roads?
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Sorry, haven't used much in the way of hotels (apart from one at Beddgelert once, who's name I now couldn't tell you ), as I usually use campsites if it's more than a day visit, and have been pretty unimaginative when it comes to those even, just using one at Llandovery and one at Beddgelert. Some of us used a camping barn up near Porthmadog which was ok too. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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stevo as b4 wrote: | I agree! Mid and north wales B-roads and routes through Snowdonia, are really good biking roads and many a great ride was had on my 600 up there.
Though rural B-roads and mountain passes can be pretty dangerous roads, when you take into account poor surfaces, loads of mountain gravel on the road, and sheep and their left behinds.
There's always been plenty of cases of say, Kev on his new R1 enjoying the top end rush on these roads and around the next bend becoming a single vehicle fatality, often in a fairly gruesome way.
The conditions, and hazards might not be ideal/safest, but when such accidents happen it's often that Kev was going batshit fast and got carried away.
I do still have a feeling that it's wrong, and unfair of Kev then to tie up mountain rescue, police, ambulance and Air ambulance for hours in slow to access terrain, to recover the injured rider or body.
It's no different IMO for people that go down exploring 100's of feet underground in caves and pot holes either. When it goes to shit and someone is nearly dead or badly injured, they suddenly expect loads of expensive medical assistance and specialist rescue, that could arguably be better spent on day to day incidents or a bus crash on the M6 etc, where it really is needed by the many, not the odd thrill seeker that though fuck it im going for it over the mountain mile etc. |
As you say, very scenic but the other hazards such as tourists, tractors, milk lorries, sheep, & gravel all add to the danger, but many crashes are as you suggest caused by going too fast on them, as some of these roads have some seriously tight bends which can catch you out.
Still well worth a ride out and I enjoy them as often as possible as I live in the area.
The main road between Llandovery and Aberystwyth does get busy with tourists but is still one of the most scenic roads there is and still on a must ride list I think. ____________________ Regards, Jerry BB
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 8 years, 349 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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