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PostPosted: 15:00 - 04 Jul 2015    Post subject: A2 Bike, thinking ducati Reply with quote

So after bloody ages of looking at all shapes and sizes of bikes I think I've decided I want a ducati, a monster and just wondered if anyone had any experience owning one and if so what they're like to run/service costs wise and insurance etc.

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PostPosted: 15:10 - 04 Jul 2015    Post subject: Re: A2 Bike, thinking ducati Reply with quote

james_c_123 wrote:
insurance


Only a comparison site would be able to help with this, probably advisable before making the thread in honesty soon determine if the ideas a good one or not. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 04 Jul 2015    Post subject: Re: A2 Bike, thinking ducati Reply with quote

james_c_123 wrote:
I've decided I want a ducati, a monster

Got a link to the ad?
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 04 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have not said which Monster 620 or 696? 1100S?

There is a bike which is better IMO - Suzuki SFV650 aka former Gladius.

Ducati is the cooler bike, its Itailian, will get your more attention, and they have some nice components on the bikes from the factory. They also cost more, parts are a little harder to get, and need serviced at shorter intervals. Good luck finding good Ducati garage near you. Famous with snatchy fuel injection. Valve adjustment will cost you a fortune unless you learn to do that yourself.

The SFV is Japanese means better quality that Italian. Parts are readily available and cheap. Aftermarket is HUGE, maintenance is easy, and major service intervals are nearly twice as long as a Monster's.

SFV650 is way better than 620 Monster. 696 is very new bike still if you consider overall package including two times longer service intervals, more comfortable position and the cost of maintenance SFV650 is the better bike.

You need to ride them both. Ducati has weird position. You may like it. Or not.

Ducati is a fashion statement. If you like Guchi, spaghetti, pizza go for it.

Personally I am not into half cooked macaroni stuff which is the small Monster.

By all means go fo 1100s model:

https://nice-cool-pics.com/data/media/16/ducati_monster_1100-s_2009.jpg
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 04 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure the vast majority of Ducati's are restricted in A2 form.

In which case, I probably wouldn't bother. The engines' pretty much the whole point....
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PostPosted: 02:30 - 05 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends entirely what bike you are considering. You have the choice of 600, 620, 695, 696 796 or the new 801 (You can buy it in A2 compatible form). I'd either pick the 696 or 796, the former if budget is a concern, the latter if you want to look cool-

https://images.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/11_ducati_monster796-14.jpg

You'll have to restrict all of them, apparently the 696 and 796 handle the restriction reasonably well. Insurance wise they're reasonable, about the same level as most similar naked bikes - MT07 etc. Use this website along with how many miles you do to see how much your servicing will cost - https://www.ducatiglasgow.co.uk/servicing/how_much_does_it_cost.

Val wrote:


Stunning looking bikes. That make too much power to be restricted for A2 licence unfortunately...
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PostPosted: 09:37 - 05 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The magpie in me loves the look and shiny brembo bling/spec on the newer monsters, though the original is still an iconic bike.

If I was going to restrict a bike to suit an A2 license, then practicalities permitting/cast aside, I'd step on an MT07 to get my hands on a Monster and have a cooler looking emasculated bike.

I find the MT07, a better looking and better finished bike than the MT09, some people though will only spunk all over a triple, and be sick all over an IL2 machine for some reason.

Not sure why I'm writing about A2, but I'm one of those that given a suitable and decent sized selection of new and used A2 compliant machines, I'd much prefer to buy something that naturally suits the licence restriction, as I'm not a fan of restricting bigger engine, more powerful, and heavier bikes at all.

More KTM390 Rivals in single, and twin cyl form would be good, but with proper build quality and nice components like the Ducati has for example. Also Lets see an Aprilia RS125 thingy with a 47bhp Ninja 300 style motor, and the style and spec of a focused sportsbike.

The right marriage of these two bikes, could make a machine that's better than the RS125, and goes some way towards being of the same fun as the 60bhp two stroke 250's, but a bit slower and easier to use.
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry guys, been off the grid working the past few days. I'm looking at this bike https://www.motorcyclenews.com/bikes-for-sale/ducati/monster-796/3202500/

Thankyou everyone for the input you've given! I'm gonna go swing my leg over the above bike next weekend and possibly an MT-07 too!
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PostPosted: 08:57 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

£7000 for a used Ducati making 35kW, or £5350 for a new MT-07 making... 35kW. Thinking
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PostPosted: 09:01 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I keep lusting after a Ducati Streetfighter.
Saw/heard one in Monaco a few weeks ago, (it did look slightly modified mind you) and have been
jizzing my kex over them ever since. There's a main Ducati agent not more than 2 miles from home as well.
Fack! This gonna be expensive....
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
£7000 for a used Ducati making 35kW, or £5350 for a new MT-07 making... 35kW. Thinking


Just going to leave this here ...

https://cdn.yamaha-motor.eu/product_assets/2015/MT07/950-75/2015-Yamaha-MT-07-EU-Deep-Armor-VR360-001.jpg

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PostPosted: 13:02 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Roger has hinted at, a new MT07 is a far better idea. I'm sure the Monster 796 was only £7,999, that one is mental money.

Plus with an MT07 you'll get the longer warranty, lower insurance, better fuel economy, lower servicing costs, they come with decent tyres from the factory...

If you're set on a monster, get a cheaper one than that, you're paying over the odds for a bike with very low miles, but not getting the benefit of a low mileage bike, in the form of a manufacturers warranty.
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.ducatiaylesbury.co.uk/used/m796_abs

1400 pounds cheaper, 500 more miles on the clock, full service including the belt thrown in.
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that once you have sat on a Monster you may change your mind. I found the riding position very odd.

Avoid On Yer Bike in Aylesbury. The only thing I would buy from there is a cup of tea out of the burger van at the weekend. Prices are inflated to fund the zillions of ponds worth of Dianese and Alpinestars stock they hold. Ratty bikes for top money.
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt B wrote:
I think that once you have sat on a Monster you may change your mind. I found the riding position very odd.

Avoid On Yer Bike in Aylesbury. The only thing I would buy from there is a cup of tea out of the burger van at the weekend. Prices are inflated to fund the zillions of ponds worth of Dianese and Alpinestars stock they hold. Ratty bikes for top money.


their prices on the site seem ok (dealer premium) , last time I was looking around there the bikes seemed tidy enough, any specific example thats soured you?
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogue_Shadow wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
£7000 for a used Ducati making 35kW, or £5350 for a new MT-07 making... 35kW. Thinking


Just going to leave this here ...

https://cdn.yamaha-motor.eu/product_assets/2015/MT07/950-75/2015-Yamaha-MT-07-EU-Deep-Armor-VR360-001.jpg

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PostPosted: 14:20 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Restrictors have been known to fall out. Mr. Green

I'd do some research on ducatiforum.co.uk to find out about servicing costs.

If you've got the money then go for it.
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeywrencher wrote:
their prices on the site seem ok (dealer premium) , last time I was looking around there the bikes seemed tidy enough, any specific example thats soured you?


Just the generic dealer lies and poor service really. Have seen too many bikes to be specific described as 'fantastic condition' or an 'outstanding example' that clearly are not. They don't care about 2nd hand sales and you can see that from the way the bikes are just dumped outside and rarely cleaned. The sales staff are ignorant and unhelpful, even mid week when they have nothing else to do they can't be arsed to help.

I went there once with the intention of buying a 2 year old ZX6R described as 'outstanding'. The guy knew I was coming, the time, and the fact I wanted a test ride. It was a Wednesday so not busy but sales mong seemed to resent me turning up and bothering him. Bike was not pulled out ready, not cleaned and had been over on it's side at some point with the damage to show for it. I told him they had wasted my time and walked away.

I still go there, it's a Sunday ride for me now and again because I know a few guys that also turn up there for a cup of tea out of the burger van. Would not buy a bike though.
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough, never dealt with the sales staff, saying that I had a good 15 minute wander around the showrooms and nobody got up to see if I was looking to buy something.

You get the same "clean it when it sells" attitude all over the car trade too, ends up the longer it stays the shitter it looks Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not wanting to sway OP either way, but I do think that you should buy what you like the look of most, if it's comfortable, and feels good to ride.

To me the Ducati M796 would be the sexy temptress that you always want to mount and ride hard, while the MT07 is the perfectly acceptable looking, smart and funky choice, but does not ooze firery latin dark mistress.

Well something like that anyway.
I'd be happy on either assuming I liked the way they rode and the ergo's, but Monster would make my member throb harder!
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