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Tracey Suntan-King wrote: | |
One man isn't bigger than the sport. Reversing a penalty on the basis of "oooh but we've been robbed of a championship" calls into the integrity of the sport. However much Marquez antagonised Rossi, Rossi is still in the wrong and deserves a penalty. Marquez had every right to race for position. Should he have let Rossi by? No.
This whole episode is an ugly bit of fanboi-ism. ____________________ Triumph Daytona 675 track bike + girlfriend's Honda Hornet 600
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLaUTGAQYGs
Watch it again, if ( as he claims ) his issue was about being held up / losing JL and DP into the distance, why did he roll so far off the throttle and go SO far off the racing line ( losing more and more of the precious seconds he claims MM had stolen ) for any other reason than to force confrontation.
That MM came off is almost irrelevant.
Sad case of self importance and a loss of self control and all the signatures from all the fans in the world won't alter it. ____________________ Module 1 and 2 passed - October 2014. Happy owner of a 2017 Z1000SX, ex owner of a YBR125 / CB500 / VFR800. |
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Pigeon wrote: | It started with some of the most incredible racing we've seen in MotoGP. The red mist descended and blood boiled. It was incredible to watch. And then disbelief. Yes it was likely to end in tears, but not a deliberate punt off the track.
At the time I was in shock, we all sat round the TV with jaws on the floor.
It looked 100% Rossi's fault and that was my opinion.
But having seen the slow mo vids I've changed my mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKiMMANG5fU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OQHxY2ibe8
Yes Rossi ran him out wide, but it happens in racing all the time. Everyone enjoys a "tough battle".
Marc had options to cutback but chose not to.
The main issue for me was the leg, I was sure Rossi kicked him off. But the replays don't show that.
They show Marc hitting Vale's leg (VR's leg moves inwards on his own bike as he has been hit by Marc). Then VR instinctively shoved his knee out.
VR is facing forward at the time he shoved his knee out. If it was deliberate, he would not have known how close Marc was, the only reason he knew was the impact.
I've gone from thinking Rossi is 100% to blame, to now thinking he's been robbed of a championship.
Of course as others have said, if he'd not run Marc off the track it would not have happened.
The unwritten rule that riders don't get involved in championship battles they are not in, I'm open either way on this point. I don't know if Marc was deliberately slowing in places in this or Philip Island, although Race Direction have confirmed that he was. |
I agree.
First impressions were "Rossi, you bellend! What are you playing at?"
Then when you look at the slo-mo it's clear Rossi gives Marquez the option to back down or crash, then Marquez clearly leans again (see his helmet dip and him lean in again) further into Rossi taking his leg off the pegs. What looked like a kick was actually his leg being yanked away.
Marquez was second favourite in that corner but I guess some people never know when they're beaten. All year we've been saying at work that Marq is a bit of a liability and takes the fairing bashing too far.
Now I think he's decided the Championship. Cock. ____________________ NSR125RR - ZXR750H1 - ZX9R E1 - GSF600S - GSF600SK3 - VFR400-NC30 - SV1000N - ST1100-R - CBR900RR-R - GSF1200SK5 - GSF600SK1 - VFR1200FA - GSXR1000K2 - ZZR1400 D8F
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UnknownStuntman wrote: | He'll ride, this is all marketing. |
Of course he'll ride, if JLo falls off VR can DNF and still win the championship.
The other permutations are:-
Obviously, if VR finishes ahead of JLo it's a done deal.
If JLo finishes first, VR would need to finish in second to win the championship, (unlikely)!
If JLo finishes second VR must finish in third to win the championship, a fourth place would see JLo win on race wins, (still unlikely)!
This is where it gets interesting, if JLo finishes third, VR can afford to finish in sixth, (which is not beyond the realms of possibility), and win the championship.
If JLo were to finish fourth VR only needs to finish in ninth, and so on!
As I see it JLo must finish on the podium to win, (assuming he doesn't succomb to enemy fire from a Ducati torpedo in turn 1 ), it's imperative he stays upright!
I'm guessing JLo is praying, very hard, it doesn't rain!
I can see it now JLo DNF'ing and VR wheelying around for the whole race!
There's an interesting article here, summing up the weekend's shenanigans, it's a bit long but worth a read :-
https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/10/27/2015_sepang_motogp_round_up_heroes_who_h.html ____________________ "Everybody needs money, that's why they call it money!" |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 8 years, 210 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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