new snoozer.

[lilredmachine]

Here be the skeletal remains of a 1995 GSX 600 F. It's boring and very competent.

https://i.imgur.com/ieKSf88.jpg

This is a Bandit 1200 motor on the cradle from the GSX.

https://i.imgur.com/tIAeM4b.jpg

This is the cradle from the GSX with the motor from the Bandit on it back in the GSX.

https://i.imgur.com/I4XKutD.jpg

This is the cradle of the GSX with the motor from the Bandit back in the GSX and covered up with the GSX bodywork.

https://i.imgur.com/YbePpGT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5VjKtln.jpg

It is no longer boring. It merely looks boring.

I Won't bore you with the specifics of how to actually fit the motor in there but rest assured it is hilariously quick and works swimmingly.
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[Snowdonia Rider]

Please bore me with it. Any major hiccups? Apparently the GSX1100 motor is almost a straight swap but never knew the 1200 motor fit OK.
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[lilredmachine]

There were many hiccups. Took 4 days to do it in all. Well spent week off work I reckon.

1) True sleeper. clutch pushrod shortened to allow cable operation conversion rather than hydraulic. This means retaining the stock gsx clutch perch, and more importantly the stock gsx sprocket cover complete with dual bosses for the gearshift lever. Also allows use of standard footrests.

2) Throttle converted to single pull cable to allow use of standard gsx throttle assembly and switchgear, Bandit choke cable modified to fit gsx.

3) Frame notched to allow fitment of standard bandit 1200 cam cover/breather box. Deck height is 17mm higher than standard on the motor, breather box brings it to an inch. Another possible option is to fit a gsxr 750 Cam cover which allows use of the low slung breather box.

4) Tank brace retained via notching the brace itself but allowing slight interference on the breather box to stress the brace and retain strength. Tank rubbers cut to suit.

5) Gsx loom, CDI, coils, fuse box etc. Retained. Rev limit raised to 12k from 10.5k must be careful not to 'hang a leg out of bed' when caining it. Cut/removed clutch and sidestand switch.

6) Exhaust troublesome. Presently on 600 headers which creates a large flatspot around 4-5k rpm. Working on a solution with modified gsxr 11 headers. All require trimming of inner fairings/heat tape to avoid melting. No other large bore headers fit without modification to bodywork so may as well go for the mack daddy of oil burner pipes.

7) Converted fuel tap to single feed for bandit carbs.

many other little bits and bobs came up along the way.
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[TomReilly]

How long does it take to be able to pick up on doing something like this?

I'd love to do this, definitely something I'd find very fun to do but I just couldn't atm, I guess you just pick up on it after a while doing your own maintenance?
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[lilredmachine]

Research Is the way forward, but if doing on the internet you need a large bullshit detector. I prefer doing hard research, cross referencing bearing sizes and noting positions of mounts etc. A lot is also common sense all oil burning motors use the gsxr1100 bottom end, so mounts are the same. Only thing that varies is deck height and number of gears.

The second thing you need is the guts to take an axle grinder to something that is perfectly good.

The gsx600 motor is now fabbed into a gs550 frame as a donkey motor for testing the bandit 1200 twin shock rear end and gsxr usd front end that are hung in it. When complete a long stroke 750 gsxr motor will be transplanted in.

Suzuki is a personal favourite, but am not above fiddling with other marks.

https://i.imgur.com/7ibNQ2t.jpg

Such as Yam.
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[virus]

no doubt in your research you came across my shitty teapot ratfighter with the same frame and engine swap, I almost wish mine looked sleeper sometimes because its hella fun hammering it and confusing people. Interesting to see you even managed to keep the stock airbox, I dont think ive seen that done on one before.

[Snowdonia Rider]

[lilredmachine]

[virus]

tbh the only reason I went to the effort was because I was unsure if the cable clutch could pull the b12s diagphram springs in, is the clutch heavy at all?

sounds like youve done it the real sleeper way though, very nice work. Im on K+n Dual filters and it runs pretty well apart from a low rpm stumble, but the midrange grunt and induction noise makes up for it in my eyes.

I think the ti headers need a bit of mild tweaking to get into the ports and they do stick out furter and hang lower than a stock set but if you dont mind that then they are worth it. its nice to know the collector box isnt going to rot out tbh.

I can vouch for a b12 on a gsx600f cooler too, I took mine over the alps and only sat in unfilterable traffic on a 28 degree day on the north of lake geneva did I ever think it was getting 'hot' rather than 'warmed up properly'


Cheers
John
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stinkwheel Well I just had my hands up a pigs fanny. Which makes your concerns pale into insignificance.

[lilredmachine]

The clutch feels like a normal clutch still, and doesn't feel as 'dead' as a hydraulic assisted one which is nice. Got it running better now, discovered it really need to be on prime to get the juice in there, it goes great up till about 7500 rpm then falls flat on it's arse which is most likely the teeny headers Choking it off. Did the fork seals and serviced the brakes, readjusted the head bearings and just need to do some cabke rearrangement for the MOT hehe.
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