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Liam_
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 28 Aug 2016    Post subject: Getting caught up in someone elses accident Reply with quote
So this happened at knockhill, a rider on an old ducati suffers a catastrophic failure, rear wheel bearing collapsed and locked the wheel which resulted in a crash that took out several riders

https://youtu.be/WZ6BjyDcM48

Multi angle

https://youtu.be/pZgFP8lKTG8

No serious injuries thankfully, just a lot of broken bikes.

Although the idiot at the end running out onto a live track needs his balls booted for such stupidity
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 28 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
The slow mo of the flying guy in the first video is pretty funny!
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 28 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
its clearly faked.
the sun has never shone for that long at knockhill in real life.
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 29 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
So, what's next? Is he going to pay for what he caused or is it all just tough luck?
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PostPosted: 05:53 - 29 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
RhynoCZ wrote:
So, what's next? Is he going to pay for what he caused or is it all just tough luck?


why should he pay? they hit him
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PostPosted: 10:15 - 29 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
RhynoCZ wrote:
So, what's next? Is he going to pay for what he caused or is it all just tough luck?


Just tough luck. Thems the breaks.
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 29 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
RhynoCZ wrote:
So, what's next? Is he going to pay for what he caused or is it all just tough luck?


This is a very good question. Do the rules of the road apply in that the riders behind him should have left an adequate gap as a stopping distance?!

I know that tracks have their own rules and that it is private land etc, but I'm curious as to if there are rules or etiquette that should be followed ?!
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 29 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
dannymassive wrote:
Do the rules of the road apply in that the riders behind him should have left an adequate gap as a stopping distance?!

Not at all.

Riders have no comeback against anyone unless the trackday organiser has been negligent.
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 29 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks for clarifying that Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 29 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ste wrote:


Riders have no comeback against anyone unless the trackday organiser has been negligent.


Not checking wheel bearings could be seen as negligent.
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 29 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
^^^Prove it.

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PostPosted: 17:21 - 29 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Skudd wrote:


Not checking wheel bearings could be seen as negligent.


What's to say they weren't checked? Wink
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 29 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anything can happen on track at any time I guess it's the risk you take by agreeing to take your bike onto the track.
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 29 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
dannymassive wrote:
RhynoCZ wrote:
So, what's next? Is he going to pay for what he caused or is it all just tough luck?


This is a very good question. Do the rules of the road apply in that the riders behind him should have left an adequate gap as a stopping distance?!


As Ste says, they do not and can not apply. When you're on the track, you are on a private road where the laws concerning the traffic rules just do not apply. Also, and I'm not 100% sure about the UK, but the inssurance you have on your road legal motorcycle also does NOT cover the track riding. Unless you have a specific ''on track use'' inssurance, of course. Thumbs Up

I was asking generaly, if the riders involved asked the culprit to cover their damages.

Skudd wrote:
Ste wrote:


Riders have no comeback against anyone unless the trackday organiser has been negligent.


Not checking wheel bearings could be seen as negligent.


That is an interesting point. If entry to the circuit is based on some sort approval of any track official, that the vehicle in question is eligible, and this official was negligent, it should be fault of this official.
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 29 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
RhynoCZ wrote:
Also, and I'm not 100% sure about the UK, but the inssurance you have on your road legal motorcycle also does cover the track riding.


Not on any insurance policy I've ever had, unless you specifically ask for it. Which I did once on my Evo 8, and it was eye wateringly, ball crushingly expensive.
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 29 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
RhynoCZ wrote:
That is an interesting point. If entry to the circuit is based on some sort approval of any track official, that the vehicle in question is eligible, and this official was negligent, it should be fault of this official.

That'll be why they don't check wheel bearings. Wink
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 29 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ste wrote:
RhynoCZ wrote:
That is an interesting point. If entry to the circuit is based on some sort approval of any track official, that the vehicle in question is eligible, and this official was negligent, it should be fault of this official.

That'll be why they don't check wheel bearings. Wink


Maybe Reg Tidy was working at the track that day.

Reg Tidy's thread about fecked wheel bearings: https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=315202
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 29 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
J4mes wrote:
RhynoCZ wrote:
Also, and I'm not 100% sure about the UK, but the inssurance you have on your road legal motorcycle also does NOT cover the track riding.


Not on any insurance policy I've ever had, unless you specifically ask for it. Which I did once on my Evo 8, and it was eye wateringly, ball crushingly expensive.


Sorry, missed NOT there.
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Re: Getting caught up in someone elses accident Reply with quote
Liam_ wrote:
Although the idiot at the end running out onto a live track needs his balls booted for such stupidity


Could not beleive what I saw there, what a tool. Doh! Doh!
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah, the guy defo should have taken his bearings out pre-race and put them through an x-ray/MIR scanner before racing.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 30 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
You can hear somethings wrong in the previous corner although he may not have noticed it.
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