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RhynoCZ
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 28 Sep 2016    Post subject: FGR 2.5L V6 production version Reply with quote

As you might know or have read my thread about this project ages ago, when this thing was introduced, the FGR is 'finally'' launching their production version of the Midalu 2500 V6. Made in Czech rep., by FGR. I'd give you some specs, but there are none so far (262 kg dry, 2442 ccm V6 engine, DOHC 24 valves, liquid cooled and fuel injected, 6 speed gearbox). They did announce the price though, which is mental: 3,000,000CZK, roughly £90,000.

The prototype from 2011, had far less carbon fiber composit on it, all the bits, the front fender included, were painted white and the motorcycle had a simple classic round headlight.

Source and pictures (not in English): https://www.motorkari.cz/clanky/moto-novinky/fgr/fgr-predstavuje-prodejni-verzi-midalu-2500-v6-35127.html?kid=38379
The manufacturer: https://www.midalu.eu/

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PostPosted: 21:01 - 28 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a Monster after a diet of MacDonalds fries for thirty years.

Big ass motah in a bike sounds cool, but I bet a sorted superbike would be faster, cooler and more win than this thing... Everywhere.


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PostPosted: 22:15 - 28 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 07:01 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love how the ridiculous engine literally fills the frame.
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's no worse looking than a current V-max or Diavel, maybe better in fact?

What I don't get is why an company would go to the expense of developing a bike specific V6 of that size for what is a very limited application and appeal. Unless they have plans we don't know about to more sensibly recoup the investment outlay by using the motor for snowmobile or marine applications maybe?

I was expecting it to be an alloy V6 car engine bought in and adapted instead. That would be the sensible way to do it for such a bike, so I just hope they have plans to sell 1000's of engines for non bike applications before they go bust from it all.
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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roughly £90,000.


A bike for the super rich sunday riders with more money than sense?

Nowhere to loop a chain through, brilliant.
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJD wrote:
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roughly £90,000.


A bike for the super rich sunday riders with more money than sense?

Nowhere to loop a chain through, brilliant.


Only needs a disc lock, no one would be strong enough to lift it in to a van.
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dem chicken strips though! Very Happy

Bit of a fatty-boom-boom, V6 has always suffered from being 2 cylinders short of a V8. I'd like a go for the lulz, but for 90K I could have plenty of other bikes.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/bikes/motorcycles/ducati/996/1999-ducati-996-996cc-sheffield-bfpa-201510017393662?logcode=p

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/bikes/motorcycles/ktm/rc8/2011-ktm-rc8-1150-r-1190cc-towcester-bfpa-201608126741925?logcode=p

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/bikes/motorcycles/aprilia/tuono/2013-aprilia-tuono-v4r-999cc-northwich-bfpa-201609288230116?logcode=p

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PostPosted: 10:42 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually think its OK for one of these special uber expensive build things. Doesn't look that bad.
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 01 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Czech government gave them 200,000,000CZK to finish the project, £6.5m. The initial idea behind this was, that Czech rep. once was the biggest producer of motorcycles (old outdated two strokes, that no body wanted) and this was supposed to be something like that. Well, the dreams and ideas of the actuall engineers were different and resulted in this £90k motorcycle, that no one in Czech rep. will ever buy. Plus, as I know people here, their marketing strategy is, well there is none. So no one living abroad is ever going to know about this.

It's not the only project of this sort, heavily funded from the taxpayers money with no real marketing and promo towards actually selling the product.

Even when ''made in Czech rep.'' stuff is far superior to the rest of the things on the market, even when it's the best value for the money etc., etc., no one will ever know about it, as Czechs can't do marketing.
If I never told you about the FGR, you would never even known about it, and that is my point here.
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 01 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a sad situation then really, and I would say a huge waste of Czech tax payers millions. Surely if you want to build an sell a credible Halo bike you need to have a huge name and reputation?

Were they inspired by some of these small American custom bike companies and their approach of building a few 100 bikes for the rich consumer who just wants a bespoke or individual product?

At least most of the Yank companies would buy in an expensive to develop component like an engine or gearbox to cut spending and issues with having to tool for production etc.

If the FGR engine is not going to be used in boats, bikes, PWC's, Snowmobiles etc, I don't see how they will ever sell enough engines to pay for the tooling and development costs?

Id have started with a light 2.5 V6 car engine and cut off the bits I didn't want or need I think.

I suppose it's a bit like Yamaha and the second generation V-max. Apparently they make a loss on every bike they sell, and what other uses and plans have they come up with for the 1700cc 200bhp V4?
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 01 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

FGR was ''known'' for building 125cc race motorcycles, then some one in the factory had an idea to build the most powerful production motorcycle in the world (240bhp in 2009 or so). I remeber the policitians patting their backs and talking about the ''glory'' days of Czech motorcycle industry, when they agreed on financing the project from the tax payers money.
I was sceptial from the begining, to be honest and I still am about the FGR. I mean, imagine you are a owner of a no-name company and you walk to your bank and ask for this kind of money to build a 2.5L V6 motorcycle. Laughing

The decision of our Gov. was gulible and uninformed. Even back then, there were more than apleanty of failed projects like this. The Horex ''resurection'' project (VR6) was in about 2010/2011, where are they now? MZ/Muz was quite the same story and they had quite a renowned brand name and made motorcycles, that ordinary people could actually afford.

If FGR made a A2 friendly bike or even an ordinary sports motorcycle, with an ordinary engine, then I would take them seriously. Let's hope they will be as clever about selling these as they were when they begged for the money. Rich Russians and Oil tycoons sure would want such extraordinary thing. Thinking
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 05 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was expecting it to be heavier. Looks like you'd need really long arms to ride it Thinking
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