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flyingcbf
Renault 5 Driver



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PostPosted: 21:50 - 25 Apr 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've just done a bit more research on YouTube and two user's have suggested that the last friction plate does not go along with the other plates. It goes to the opposite slot.
I'm strugling to attach photos from Google photos so thanks to 'StinkWheel' for helping me out. I'm going to try again...

I have installed the clutch plates wrong...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczN9M887jFnMx9JWvsQ1xg3XzLS61lHqVjnSeJqCb3AsZxvcLpOTCRJEU3tThQni6mZHDG_PDVgFYRI9HIq2X1YpQ6i8Xa3awRW2l-WR5pOluVnmtVyZ8oo6ugcmgVER4k-J4OXPdlGndF9SNCJHX_4m=w1215-h911-s-no-gm-no

The correct way is this, so the last clutch plate is installed on the next slot, as in the picture below...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczOILagQ3Ot8f8ix-odMKIOx1-mOQQqTSpXLVZCCz5Zl1d-YkKJ8KMJwBbw18VWLb7Q7QlND_rm-02Jlk_ryGbtCT-1AS3m5OhEaOKLQK-h_r5Q7MGyeC7NPEJ89PWIgMgpll-54ijQXbZWrrcXKIepY=w942-h522-s-no-gm-no

Notice the last plate is installed in the opposite slot..
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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 25 Apr 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote
You are a bit incompetant at pictures. I'm not telling people which one this is.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczMRnIl6eYqpzy7BZLnlfZRctLiaPbXgJRwdT7cDCNEIPYs-1YAKYNQ2Yns61cMPA0aK-4bYhdO4R-2hhKO89J36EEy976qAXNP5FPTE-n45LPvV1xux2PqZOnM_DH54qWBy6C84EDCSHpVtu0zfe3kw=w1396-h1047-s-no?authuser=0
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jeffyjeff
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 25 Apr 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote
flyingcbf wrote:
....So any suggestion as to where to look? Clutch Friction Plates???

I would start by carefully examining the engine oil, which is shared with the transmission and clutch. Rub some oil between your thumb and forefinger...see if you can discern a loss of lubricity or the presence of debris (clutch plate material). Smell the oil. Can you detect the odor of fuel? Does it smell burnt? Fuel dilution and overheating will cause the engine oil to loose its ability to lubricate. Your problem could be related to a fuel system problem or a faulty oil cooler.

Absent any clues you might discern from the oil, clutch plates are a good place to look. I would mic out the plates individually and measure the stack and check against published specifications. Examine the clutch hub and basket for wear that might impede the clutch plates from free lateral movement. Look for evidence of two clutch plates that might not freely separate. You might consider lightly sanding the friction plates to remove any imperfections that could affect stack height, and to remove glaze that might gum up free plate movement. Upon reassembly, it might be a good idea to mix the plates up from their original locations. Standard practice is to soak the friction plates in oil prior to assembly.
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flyingcbf
Renault 5 Driver



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PostPosted: 09:04 - 26 Apr 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote
jeffyjeff wrote:
flyingcbf wrote:
....So any suggestion as to where to look? Clutch Friction Plates???

I would start by carefully examining the engine oil, which is shared with the transmission and clutch. Rub some oil between your thumb and forefinger...see if you can discern a loss of lubricity or the presence of debris (clutch plate material). Smell the oil. Can you detect the odor of fuel? Does it smell burnt? Fuel dilution and overheating will cause the engine oil to loose its ability to lubricate. Your problem could be related to a fuel system problem or a faulty oil cooler.

Absent any clues you might discern from the oil, clutch plates are a good place to look. I would mic out the plates individually and measure the stack and check against published specifications. Examine the clutch hub and basket for wear that might impede the clutch plates from free lateral movement. Look for evidence of two clutch plates that might not freely separate. You might consider lightly sanding the friction plates to remove any imperfections that could affect stack height, and to remove glaze that might gum up free plate movement. Upon reassembly, it might be a good idea to mix the plates up from their original locations. Standard practice is to soak the friction plates in oil prior to assembly.


Engine oil has just been changed, twice. I did an oil flush.
I'm going to attempt to open her again today weather permitting and check the clutch plates. I'll check the oil too as suggested. Thumbs Up
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flyingcbf
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 26 Apr 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote
After watching some videos below,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wblPnGEQgsg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbr7lL3balg

it seems that the clutch plates in this bike are already correct, so there must be some other underlying issue Sad
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