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Posted: 18:39 - 18 Jul 2006 Post subject: Paedophile Party : Unbelievable |
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The Netherlands cemented its reputation as Europe's most socially liberal country yesterday when a new political party formed by paedophiles was told it could contest this year's general election.
A Dutch court rejected an attempt by anti-paedophile campaigners to ban the Brotherly Love, Freedom and Diversity party (PNVD), which wants to cut the age of consent from 16 to 12 and to legalise child pornography. "The freedom of expression, the freedom of assembly and the freedom of association should be seen as the foundations of the democratic rule of law and the PNVD is also entitled to these freedoms," the court in The Hague said in a statement
The court declared that curbs on freedom of expression could only be applied where public order is at risk. "They [opponents of the party] only want to give expression to their moral concerns. That is far from being sufficient to outlaw a party. It is up to the voter to give a judgment on the arguments of political parties," Judge H Hofhuis was quoted by the Dutch news agency ANP as telling the court.
The ruling will be seen as a powerful example of the Netherlands' liberal approach to social issues. The country has famously relaxed views on soft drugs, prostitution and gay marriage.
The paedophile party will be free to stand in November's general election if it meets the usual requirements of submitting a list of candidates and providing the signatures of at least 500 supporters.
The court's decision angered the anti-paedophile campaign group Solace, which brought the case, and whose views appear to be widely reflected in Dutch society.
No Kidding, a group campaigning for children's rights, called on the Dutch government to act against the party. "Dutch citizens must make their voices heard if we do not want to sacrifice our children to paedophile interests," it said.
The new party, which was formed in May, pledged to intensify its campaign to remove the taboo on paedophilia which, it claims, has worsened in the past decade after the arrest of the notorious Belgian paedophile Marc Dutroux. In his most notorious crime, Dutroux kidnapped and imprisoned two young girls and starved them to death.
Marthijn Uittenbogaard, the chairman of the new party, was quoted by ANP as saying: "We expected to win. We are not doing anything criminal so why should you ban the PNVD?"
The new party wants to legalise the possession of child pornography and to allow pornography to be shown on daytime television. Violent pornography would be allowed after the evening watershed, young children would receive sex education and youths over the age of 16 would be allowed to appear in pornographic films. Sex with animals would also be allowed by the party, although abuse of animals would remain illegal.
Such ideas have proved too much for 82% of the Dutch population, who want the government to outlaw the party according to a recent opinion poll. Publicity for the party last month provoked such a backlash that one of its founders had to flee a caravan park after receiving threats.
The reaction against the new party comes at a sensitive moment in Dutch history. The difficulty of integrating many members of the country's Muslim population has prompted even mainstream politicians to call for immigrants to be denied citizenship if they do not accept the country's liberal values.
Rita Verdonk, the country's immigration minister, recently caused controversy by saying that aspiring Dutch citizens should be shown a DVD highlighting Dutch liberal values. Muslims complained that this was targeted against them because it featured a gay couple kissing.
The general election was called after the coalition government collapsed in a row linked to the debate on Muslims. The small centre-right D66 party withdrew from the coalition after Ms Verdonk stripped Dutch citizenship from (and then restored it to) Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Somali-born former MP who is one of the country's sharpest critics of radical Islamists and is now to emigrate to the US.
Testing times
Events that have shaken the Netherlands' liberal reputation:
February 2002 Pim Fortuyn kicked out of the Livable Netherlands party after saying immigration should be restricted and discrimination permitted. His Pim Fortuyn List becomes the second-largest party in May's parliamentary elections
May 2002 Fortuyn shot dead nine days before elections, by an animal rights activist who said he wanted to prevent the politician exploiting vulnerable elements of society
November 2004 Film-maker Theo van Gogh murdered on an Amsterdam street by a Muslim extremist. Van Gogh had become a target because of his film Submission, which dealt with violence against women in Islam
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Posted: 10:00 - 19 Jul 2006 Post subject: Re: Paedophile Party : Unbelievable |
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Joe wrote: | The court declared that curbs on freedom of expression could only be applied where public order is at risk. "They [opponents of the party] only want to give expression to their moral concerns. That is far from being sufficient to outlaw a party. It is up to the voter to give a judgment on the arguments of political parties," Judge H Hofhuis was quoted by the Dutch news agency ANP as telling the court. |
Agreed. In essence the party is no different from any other and therefore the voters should deceide.
Paedophilia is wrong.
The above statement is believed by the vast majority of people but you need to be aware that this is a social construct (I seem to be saying this a lot lately). This means that it is time and culturally sensitive: go back in time and our beliefs of what a child should and shouldn't do are very different. It will no doubt change in the future.
The party could also do some good if it is to support those who have a desire for under age (again, another social construct) children: helping get 'treatment' and staying out of trouble. There is currently no support for those before they offend.
Joe wrote: | The paedophile party will be free to stand in November's general election if it meets the usual requirements of submitting a list of candidates and providing the signatures of at least 500 supporters. |
Given the current climate towards paedophiles I'd be surprised if 500 came forward as supporters.
Zak wrote: | As it should, string all the bastards up. As a parent I find it absolutley disgusting. |
And that's great, but if you were a parent in the Roman times you'd be quite happy to sell a good looking child to the highest bidder.
Quote: | young children would receive sex education and youths over the age of 16 would be allowed to appear in pornographic films |
I may be wrong here but under British law, isn't this already the case? (or is it sex at 16, porn at 18?)
Quote: | Sex with animals would also be allowed by the party, although abuse of animals would remain illegal. |
An animal can't consent to sex but, than again, it doesn't conent to being eaten.
Quote: | Such ideas have proved too much for 82% of the Dutch population, who want the government to outlaw the party according to a recent opinion poll. Publicity for the party last month provoked such a backlash that one of its founders had to flee a caravan park after receiving threats. |
No law/ban therefore needed. The 'voters' have spoken. |
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Posted: 10:28 - 19 Jul 2006 Post subject: Re: Paedophile Party : Unbelievable |
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i am ashamed to have anything to do with that country now
thats madness!
I think we need to take the law in to our own hands now as concerned with pedoes! choose a punishment yourself one. ____________________ All the breast.
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He's too busy beating the everloving shit out of Lizzie to notice this thread has taken a turn down Drama Avenue and stopped off at the popcorn shop. |
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FFS whatever next ! |
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dragonfly wrote: | i am ashamed to have anything to do with that country now
thats madness!
I think we need to take the law in to our own hands now as concerned with pedoes! choose a punishment yourself one. |
I think thats a bit harsh. They are not supporting the party, nor are they condoning the party. Instead they are allowing the public to have their say on the issue through democratic means.
this sums it up I think
Quote: | The court declared that curbs on freedom of expression could only be applied where public order is at risk. "They [opponents of the party] only want to give expression to their moral concerns. That is far from being sufficient to outlaw a party. It is up to the voter to give a judgment on the arguments of political parties," Judge H Hofhuis was quoted by the Dutch news agency ANP as telling the court. |
I agree with innominate.
If you want to read something truly disturbing check out the Northern American Man Boy Love Association
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Quote: | Our movement today stresses the liberation and empowerment of young people. Instead of pedagogy, democracy. Rather than a Greek love mentor-relationship, the companionship of independent and autonomous individuals. In place of male supremacy, a vision of sexual, economic, and political liberation for all. Freedom is indivisible. The liberation of children, women, boy-lovers, and homosexuals in general, can occur only as complementary facets of the same dream." |
Fucking weirdos. |
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let them have their party, doesn't mean anyone is going to vote or support it. The party has just as much right ot exist as any other subject driven party such as a christian party or an anit-abortion party.
Its doesn't mean that the members of the party are practicing pedos, infact if they were the party would be counter productive as these people will most likely be under more survailence then they were before. ____________________ Motorcycle headlight bulbs and HIDs
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Posted: 15:24 - 19 Jul 2006 Post subject: Re: Paedophile Party : Unbelievable |
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One of the best posts I've seen on this board. ____________________ I'm immortal. Well, so far. |
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Damn, there I was thinking Joe was inviting us to a Paedophile party. ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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If I were in charge all em pedos will be
1. Hung, drawn and quatered
2. People supporting pedos fredoom of speech etc will be lynched and then hung, drawn and quatered.
If anyone has any objections please say so.
Good
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imo opinion let them have the party, then at least the authorities will know who these people are
as to changing the laws, no way, i think 12 is too young for kids to be having sex, as for sex with animals, they can have that, as long as i get to choose which animal.
the first sicko to ask can go to the zoo and f#ck the lion, second one can have a go with the leopard...... ____________________ Fallen Angel "Nae sniffing my seat now!!!!! "
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I reckon that is some pretty good shit actually............
.............500 plus party members all volunteering their names on a list ready to round up and slaughter like pigs. ____________________ https://domharnessphotography.webs.com |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 17 years, 328 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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