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Charlie
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Looks good Thumbs Up

We need to definitely go for a ride out when you get it finished. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
ds55 wrote:
Looks good Thumbs Up

We need to definitely go for a ride out when you get it finished. Thumbs Up


Once the weather has warmed up we'll organise something.
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Haven't you finished this one yet? Shocked Wink
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 01 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
BenR wrote:
Haven't you finished this one yet? Shocked Wink


I'm just fettling with it ready for summer Razz
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Panels gaps are a little better now but still not 100%.

https://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/ms51ves3/DSCF1312.jpg
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 02 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just won an EBC front brake disc that has only ever been fitted to a wheel and not used (so pretty much new) for ?42 delivered Mr. Green They're ?158 from Wemoto.

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PostPosted: 16:32 - 04 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
The disc arrived today, now I just need to decide between EBC and Gold Fren brake pads and whether to get HH sintered or not Thinking

Had a little bit of a search and I'm quite liking the sound of the Gold Fren HH sintered pads. Decisions, decisions.
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 04 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sintered will wear through your disc pretty quickly though Sad
But would improve braking, depends whats you want doesnt it
Longevity or performance Wink
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 04 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jamie_lvs_bikez wrote:
Sintered will wear through your disc pretty quickly though Sad
But would improve braking, depends whats you want doesnt it
Longevity or performance Wink


Performance. I know sintered wear through discs quicker but the amount I use the bike, I'd rather have the extra braking power because the front brake is crap at the moment.

Plus according to Sickpup on here, Gold Fren sintered are quite soft pads anyway.
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 05 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah good point, its only for fun isn't it.
You dont commute on it or anything (because you don't have a job Wink )
So yeah may aswel just get better braking, then you can tell me if there any good Wink
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 05 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jamie_lvs_bikez wrote:
Sintered will wear through your disc pretty quickly though Sad
But would improve braking, depends whats you want doesnt it
Longevity or performance Wink



Can you define pretty quickly lol


My TDM has the original discs and 36,000 miles on it always had sintered pads. Do you have any actual experiance of sintered pads wearing down discs?
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 05 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've gone for the Gold Fren HH pads so we will see how they perform. Hopefully I'll get the pads next week and then I can fit everything.

All new front brake for less than ?55...Bargain Cool
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PostPosted: 11:40 - 06 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Could the brake be uprated? I know alot of the older Yamahas can take the bluespots which are Brilliant calipers.
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 06 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
chris-red wrote:
Could the brake be uprated? I know alot of the older Yamahas can take the bluespots which are Brilliant calipers.


Yeah, maybe if they are still dire I may look into it.

My pads have just arrived, ordered them yesterday at 14:50 and they were dispatched by 15:10. Amazingly quick to arrive.

Going to get some breakfast and then fit everything.
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Here's what I started with:

https://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/ms51ves3/DSCF1360.jpg

Took the caliper off the forks and removed the old pads. Not much difference (if any) in meat between the new and old pads:

https://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/ms51ves3/DSCF1361.jpg

Smeared copper grease on the back of the new pads and fitted them back in the caliper:

https://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/ms51ves3/DSCF1365.jpg

Fitted the caliper back on the forks and torqued the bolts up.

Now to lift the front wheel in the air:

https://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/ms51ves3/DSCF1367.jpg

The bricks (and a scissor jack on the other side) help keep the bike stable.

Within 5 minutes the wheel was off:

https://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/ms51ves3/DSCF1369.jpg

Another 5 minutes and the disc was off:

https://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/ms51ves3/DSCF1372.jpg

It was easy removing the bolts as I've done it before when I changed my tyre. Gave the allen socket a couple of taps with a hammer beforehand to shock the threads just to be safe.

And as if by magic the new disc appeared on the wheel:

https://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/ms51ves3/DSCF1373.jpg

Fitted the bolts back on with 243 Loctite and torqued them up to 20Nm.

Re-fitted the wheel and torqued the spindle (74Nm) and pinch bolt (23Nm) up.

And a final picture with the new disc:

https://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/ms51ves3/DSCF1375-1.jpg

Can't wait to try it out.
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 06 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
New Disc = Win!

This thread always makes me miss 2t Sad
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Out of curiosity (and apologies for tarnishing the thread) when did Yam make a 'new' TZR250?

https://www.rsmotorcycles.co.uk/images/YAM15.jpg

https://www.rsmotorcycles.co.uk/images/YAM15-2.jpg

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PostPosted: 16:28 - 06 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
2002 I think.
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 06 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thats a TZR50, not 250.
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 06 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Faraz wrote:
Thats a TZR50, not 250.


I didn't see the '2' in Steve's post Embarassed
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 06 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
chris-red wrote:
Could the brake be uprated? I know alot of the older Yamahas can take the bluespots which are Brilliant calipers.


My TZR250 had a blue spot caliper on it when I bought it (they bolt straight on). However to me the problem with the TZR brakes seems to be that the ratio of the master cylinder to the caliper is poor (stuff all movement in the lever), and the smaller pistons on the blue spot make this even worse (no movement, no feel and loads of lever pressure required).

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PostPosted: 22:29 - 06 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kickstart wrote:

However to me the problem with the TZR brakes seems to be that the ratio of the master cylinder to the caliper is poor (stuff all movement in the lever), and the smaller pistons on the blue spot make this even worse (no movement, no feel and loads of lever pressure required).


I had the same problem with my TDR250 when I fitted a blue spot. I ended up swapping the standard master cylinder for a KTM660 SMC one, problem solved.
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Hi

I have a master cylinder from an Aprilia AF1 Sintesi on mine currently (12mm bore rather than 14mm bore, from memory). Has improved things quite a bit.

Had a similar issue with the Bimota which used a Yamaha master cylinder with Brembo calipers as standard. Dramatically improved with a Brembo m/c from a Mille.

All the best

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PostPosted: 23:01 - 06 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Faraz wrote:
Thats a TZR50, not 250.
I thought the wheels were a bit thin, but the site it's pulled from is definitly advertising it as a 250.
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 06 Feb 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
st3v3 wrote:
Faraz wrote:
Thats a TZR50, not 250.
I thought the wheels were a bit thin, but the site it's pulled from is definitly advertising it as a 250.


On a TZR50 the front tyre is the same size as a 2MA and the rear tyre is a 130 which is 10mm wider Laughing
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