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Posted: 22:22 - 15 Sep 2009 Post subject: How do you balance carbs? |
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Need to balance mine and wondered what methods/tools people use and how successful/difficult they found them?
Do you go for this cheapo method? Click
Cheap (relatively) tool? Gunson Carb Balancer
Expensive posh tool? Davida 4-way Vaccum Gauge
For me, it'll be rarely used but I want something accurate enough for road use . It's something that I'd only want to have to buy once, not interested in false economy. ____________________ R.I.P. Tareree Shiimi, 1985-2008 |
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The Original Muzza |
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Posted: 23:35 - 15 Sep 2009 Post subject: |
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Above method can be done, but vacuum gauge is most efficient.
Davida 2 cylinder gauge costs half the price of the 4 cylinder, and you can easily balance 4 cylinders using it.
Just keep one gauge on your first cylinder, then balance the rest from that, one at a time. ____________________ Current Bikes: Husqvarna Svartpilen 401 (2020)
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Posted: 11:25 - 16 Sep 2009 Post subject: |
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Ended up buying the Davida 2 Gauge, saves me £50 over the 4 gauge.
Cheers lads ____________________ R.I.P. Tareree Shiimi, 1985-2008 |
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Posted: 11:51 - 16 Sep 2009 Post subject: |
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was looking at this yesterday as i phoned round a few garages asking how much to balance the carbs on the pooperdream and they all just ummed and ahh'd so fuck em.
how does it compare to the davida gauges? considering they're bloody expensive when compared to pattern gauges or don't you know? ____________________ CG125 > ZX6r > GSX600F > CB250n + ZX7R+ Bandit 1200 |
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Posted: 12:16 - 16 Sep 2009 Post subject: |
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Muzza wrote: | Above method can be done, but vacuum gauge is most efficient.
Davida 2 cylinder gauge costs half the price of the 4 cylinder, and you can easily balance 4 cylinders using it.
Just keep one gauge on your first cylinder, then balance the rest from that, one at a time. |
Right in a way but you'll find that the vast majority of IL4s are set-up so you have to balance carbs 1 to 2, 3 to 4 and then 1 and 2 to 3 and 4. You can do it with a 2 gauge balancer but it's quicker and easier with a 4 way.
I bought a Morgan Carbtune, top piece of kit.
Cheers
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jackdim wrote: | the grim reaper wrote: |
Right in a way but you'll find that the vast majority of IL4s are set-up so you have to balance carbs 1 to 2, 3 to 4 and then 1 and 2 to 3 and 4. You can do it with a 2 gauge balancer but it's quicker and easier with a 4 way.
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Whilst I agree it's easier, its doesn't seem to be an awful lot harder with the 2 gauge. Most IL4's have 3 adjusters AFAIK? (could be wrong).
No.1, balances cyl 1&2, No.3 Balances cyl 3&4 and No.2 balances 1&2 against 3&4. Like this:
https://www.zxrworld.co.uk/zxr400/workshop/carbs/carb5.jpg
With the 2 gauge, put it on cyl 1&2 balance, then on cyl 3&4 balance and then on cyl 2&3 and balance them against each other?
Please correct me if I'm wrong because I'll have to msg the seller to get them to upgrade my purchase to a 4 gauge . |
You are absolutely correct, but remember that the engine always needs to be up to temperature before balancing the carbs and I got fed up with burning my fingers on the block whilst trying to change hoses.
As I said, a dual gauge will allow you to do the job but a four way makes the job easier.
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Posted: 17:59 - 16 Sep 2009 Post subject: |
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Balancing with a 2-way takes longer, but jackdim wanted to be thrifty without purchasing a sub-standard piece of equipment. He saved 50 quid and got an excellent quality tool, extra time and fiddling is the compromise of the tight pursestrings of people like jackdim and myself. ____________________ Current Bikes: Husqvarna Svartpilen 401 (2020)
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You could have bought these for less then the ones you got and they do all four at the same time |
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Rufus wrote: |
was looking at this yesterday as i phoned round a few garages asking how much to balance the carbs on the pooperdream and they all just ummed and ahh'd so fuck em.
how does it compare to the davida gauges? considering they're bloody expensive when compared to pattern gauges or don't you know? |
All I can say is they did the job for me - I don`t have anything to compare them to but found it easy to use (which I need!). I looked at various reviews & it seemed a safe bet |
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Wow they must have been bad for you to tell me twice |
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i have tryed them all i find these the best |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 14 years, 216 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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