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CHR15
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: super awesome turbo now in bits again Reply with quote

i dont really have anything to do next year ( apart from college work )

so i thought i'd build a turbo bike.

ill start with some specs, then some pictures and writing and stuff.


bandit 1200

garrett t25 ( from a fiesta )

rs turbo intercooler

home made plenum

home made headers

external wastegate

gsxr clutch conversion and mtc lockup.

basicaly, everything that can be home made, will be.

my budget is about 600 quid for the setup, hopefully i'll beat that.

im aiming for around 190bhp from 6psi


a bit of background, i wount be buying a b12 until january 22nd next year (savings bond finishes) and my restriction runs out on the 28th, so i wont bother insuring it till then, to avoid them asking for restriction, when it ends in 6 days anyway.


so, all the measurment work is coming from kind people on oss.



anyway, what ive done so far.


garrett t 25, removed the wastegate so i can fit an external one, as i don't trust the built in thing, and i want to be able to change the boost cut off later down the line.

https://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad233/chris-bracey/turbo/IMG_3293Medium.jpg

https://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad233/chris-bracey/turbo/IMG_3294Medium.jpg

https://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad233/chris-bracey/turbo/IMG_3295Medium.jpg


i then did some maths and drew out the stud plan for the exhaust housing.

https://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad233/chris-bracey/turbo/IMG_3296Medium.jpg


i then shaded over the end, to get the shape for the new bolt on plate thing im going to make

https://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad233/chris-bracey/turbo/IMG_3298Medium.jpg



then cut it out.

https://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad233/chris-bracey/turbo/IMG_3299Medium.jpg


ive drilled and tapped the main oil gallery plug for the feed line to the turbo

https://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad233/chris-bracey/turbo/IMG_3265Medium.jpg

https://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad233/chris-bracey/turbo/IMG_3267Medium.jpg

https://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad233/chris-bracey/turbo/IMG_3270Medium.jpg



ive also started work on the plenum.

got some specs from a guy off oss

https://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad233/chris-bracey/turbo/carbs-1.jpg


drawn up in 2d

https://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad233/chris-bracey/turbo/plenum1.jpg


then in 3d

https://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad233/chris-bracey/turbo/plenum-1.jpg

this is being made by warped's dad lol.


anyway, thats the main stuff ive done so far. most of the stuff ive done is maths and boring things.

hopefully more coming tomorrow, ive found a guy with some part finished headers for sale.
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

So much win potential. I ran a T25 on my old fiesta zetec s.

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PostPosted: 18:17 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fap, fap fap.
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an external wastgate knocking around! I can also get an RS Turbo intercooler as well Wink

I also have a T25 gasket at my house, you can have that for free if you want? Saves you making one! Comes with bolts for fitting as well!

How much boost are you looking at running?
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now this is what i'm talking about! Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice work Chris, keep it up Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have an external wastgate knocking around! I can also get an RS Turbo intercooler as well


let me know how much you want for them Thumbs Up



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How much boost are you looking at running?


starting off at 6lbs running on stock compression (9.5:1)

if that goes ok, ill start saving up for busa pistons, and bore it to 1216cc, which drops the cr some more, and go up to about 10 lbs
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can have it for free if I can dig it out mate, its an XS Power one I used on an old T04e I had on my car, the turbo shit its self! I've got a £300 Tial wastgate now, so its not doing anything! I'll see if I can dig it out for you, it works really well, you might need to fit a slightly weaker spring if you want to run less then 7psi though! You can have the gasket as well, its the same stud pattern as that turbo.

The intercooler is my friends of a Series 1 RS Turbo, I will ask him what he's doing with it!
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

coolness, thanks.
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will be following this with interest, so I'll see you running that thing on the 1/4 mile at santa pod next year then eh? Wink
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

the time scale plan atm is to be finished before next September, when i go to uni.


doesn't santa pod cost money?

if so, ill just take it down the a500 early in the morning.
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Should be interesting. If you want to measure anything up on my Bandit (or the spares I have floating around) then let me know. I have a lockup clutch floating around somewhere.

If you want it to accelerate hard then budget on a longer swinging arm. The Bandit is too tall and short to get decent acceleration without a fair bit of skill (counts me out). My GSXR is 20+ hp down on the Bandit but half a second quicker on a standing quarter.

All the best

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PostPosted: 19:19 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a lockup clutch floating around somewhere.


if you do, and i could buy it off you, that would be brilliant.

there like 300 quid new Sick Shocked
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Came with my GSXR11 and I have never used it. For the road you might be better just using a couple of heavy duty springs or a GSXR11 clutch.

I have some stock exhausts which you can borrow to measure up for the manifolds (although you might be best just buying a rusted up set of headers needing the section underneath repairing and using those as a basis).

EDIT - Forgot to mention I have a spare head floating around with a load of bent valves. Could be useful for sorting out the plenum if you want to use a draw through setup.

All the best

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PostPosted: 19:44 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Came with my GSXR11 and I have never used it


is it for coil spring or diaphragm?


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I have some stock exhausts which you can borrow to measure up for the manifolds


thanks, im waiting for a guy to get back to me, who's got a set already chopped up and tacked, for a t25.
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks interesting chap.

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PostPosted: 20:26 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

CHR15 wrote:

is it for coil spring or diaphragm?


Probably for a coil spring clutch, but there is most of the clutch there with it.

Here is the lockup and the extension pieces.

https://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/TempPicture/LockupSmall.jpg

All the best

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PostPosted: 20:31 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont know if its just the picture but that turbo looks like it has a rather large crack in it is that the one you are planning to use ?
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool, well if you want to get rid of it, think of a price and ill start saving lol.

its probably going to be the most expensive part of the build, but its kind of critical lol
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I really don't know. I still suspect it would be cheaper and easier to use a heavy duty spring set up.

I have a box of parts and would need to work out which bits are part of the lockup clutch.

If you want to wander over and take a look some time then you are welcome to.

All the best

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PostPosted: 20:42 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

michaelnabbi wrote:
dont know if its just the picture but that turbo looks like it has a rather large crack in it is that the one you are planning to use ?

Wow your observant, took me a while to see it. But now i do, i see exactly what you mean
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I really don't know. I still suspect it would be cheaper and easier to use a heavy duty spring set up.

I have a box of parts and would need to work out which bits are part of the lockup clutch.

If you want to wander over and take a look some time then you are welcome to.



apparently, even with heavy duty stuff, the diaphragm clutch wont take over 150 bhp

i might take you up on that, you around next Saturday?
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

michaelnabbi wrote:
dont know if its just the picture but that turbo looks like it has a rather large crack in it is that the one you are planning to use ?


Just had a look. In the last piccy I think I can see the crack you are referring to as well.

All the best

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PostPosted: 20:48 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

CHR15 wrote:

apparently, even with heavy duty stuff, the diaphragm clutch wont take over 150 bhp

i might take you up on that, you around next Saturday?


Mine is coping with it Laughing . Mine has around 150hp (most was 157hp) and it has been abused a bit for the last 10000 miles.

Think we are around Saturday.

All the best

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PostPosted: 20:53 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mine is coping with it Laughing . Mine has around 150hp (most was 157hp) and it has been abused a bit for the last 10000 miles.

Think we are around Saturday.




ah well, maybe ill get lucky. Thumbs Up


ill let you know about Saturday later on, depends on the weather really.
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