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PostPosted: 15:35 - 17 Oct 2011    Post subject: Leanometer L20 Reply with quote

Does anyone have one of these? Does it do anything that checking your chicken strips couldn't do?

https://www.leanometer.com/
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 17 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, quite a lot of money for a gimmick. Quite cool though.

Measuring the acceleration and braking is quite cool. It doesn't say whether it records your maximum readings, I would assume it does, because let's face it, you don't want to be looking at it when you're fully committed at max lean.

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PostPosted: 15:49 - 17 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

pretty expensive tat really. most smart phones can do that sort of thing with an app anyway. plus you know if you're de/accelerating turning hard anyway without it.
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 17 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

h00dwink wrote:
pretty expensive tat really. most smart phones can do that sort of thing with an app anyway. plus you know if you're de/accelerating turning hard anyway without it.


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PostPosted: 17:11 - 17 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it does only record the last 25 corners they're missing a trick as otherwise it would have some interest as a cheap datalogger for track riding.
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 18 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

h00dwink wrote:
can do that sort of thing with an app anyway.


Link please Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 18 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is an app for the iphone called iLean that does the same thing. There is even a free version available.
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 18 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

calyx wrote:
h00dwink wrote:
can do that sort of thing with an app anyway.


Link please Laughing


There are loads of apps on the droid market which measure g-force and so long as your phone has an accelerometer in it, it can measure lean and other stuff.
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PostPosted: 18:06 - 18 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:


There are loads of apps on the droid market which measure g-force and so long as your phone has an accelerometer in it, it can measure lean and other stuff.


Could you name one or two please? i want one.
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 18 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
The Artist wrote:


There are loads of apps on the droid market which measure g-force and so long as your phone has an accelerometer in it, it can measure lean and other stuff.


Could you name one or two please? i want one.


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PostPosted: 18:21 - 18 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
The Artist wrote:


There are loads of apps on the droid market which measure g-force and so long as your phone has an accelerometer in it, it can measure lean and other stuff.


Could you name one or two please? i want one.


One...

I'll let you lazy sods find the rest......
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 18 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes i can use it. If you know some, tell me, if not just admit you think there are some available but don't actually know.

Trawling through all the things on android market that sound like they might measure lean and g force, is gonna be a pain but if you know some, you can save me the trouble.
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 18 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I deleted them off my phone because of the Desires crap onboard memory (this is before apps2sd) so I don't know the exact names. I do remember there being loads. Just search g force on the market.
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 18 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
One... [/url]

I'll let you lazy sods find the rest......


thanks your skills are better than mine

although oddly when i look for it using my phone to get it, it doesnt appear on android market on my phone
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 18 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:
I deleted them off my phone because of the Desires crap onboard memory (this is before apps2sd) so I don't know the exact names. I do remember there being loads. Just search g force on the market.


thanks found one using that technique and im installing
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 18 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:

thanks your skills are better than mine

although oddly when i look for it using my phone to get it, it doesnt appear on android market on my phone


Mr. Green Karma

Well I just put "Ride Logger" into market on my phone and it came straight up....

1st search i just used "accelerometer" to search the market Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 18 Oct 2011    Post subject: Leanometer L20 Reply with quote

Yes, the Leanometer will do a lot more than the free (or not) phone apps. These work by using gps to work out lean angle but they don't measure the forces as generated by the bike and rider.

The Leanometer displays both true lean angle AND frame angle and having both is useful for improving riding technique or just discovering what you're doing during cornering.

The free apps show estimated lean angle and the (generally very expensive) racing lean angle loggers show frame angle. The Leanometer is the only one that logs and displays BOTH and also stores your braking into the corner and acceleration out of it on an easy to read display (not in your pocket like a phone app).

For every trip, your maximum lean angle is recorded and also your maximum for all journeys is recorded also.

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PostPosted: 22:22 - 18 Oct 2011    Post subject: Re: Leanometer L20 Reply with quote

Pilot wrote:
Yes, the Leanometer will do a lot more than the free (or not) phone apps. These work by using gps to work out lean angle


Hang on, I very much doubt they use GPS to work out a lean angle...

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PostPosted: 22:38 - 18 Oct 2011    Post subject: Re: Leanometer L20 Reply with quote

Gazdaman wrote:
Pilot wrote:
Yes, the Leanometer will do a lot more than the free (or not) phone apps. These work by using gps to work out lean angle


Hang on, I very much doubt they use GPS to work out a lean angle...

Gaz


Pilot is a spammer trying to promote his product. He has already made a fairly obvious mistake in his first post which from a marketing point of view is a mega fail.
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 18 Oct 2011    Post subject: Re: Leanometer L20 Reply with quote

To be fair, they made it pretty clear they were associated with the product.

But yes, this lack of knowledge of rivals products is a rather concerning when considering basic research and development expected before even a prototype would have been made.

Pilot: why only hold data for 25 corners? Memory is cheap these days, you know?
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 18 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.maxcom.maxprotractor&feature=related_apps

This one is very accurate.
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Re: Leanometer L20 Reply with quote

Pilot: You are full of shite mate. We are not talking about 10 quid lidl phones here. My phone is 0.2 degrees sensitive.

BTW leanometer can not possibly display "true" lean angle either. How the hell can it know the angle of the road? Triple facepalm mate. Sorry.
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PostPosted: 09:07 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are just trying to answer the obvious questions about the Leanometer as most don't realise what it does and why it's different and better at the job of lean angle display than any phone app.

All phones these days have the ability to measure angles of stationary objects very accurately (no doubt even the Lidl ones). This isn't how they do moving bike lean angle measurements though (they use gps and work out average lean angles by knowing your speed and change of direction).
The Leanometer measures bike movement changes with much greater precision than any phone (regardless of what it costs).

True and Frame lean angle is measured from the vertical. They both need to be displayed and logged togther to be useful to your riding (you can see how much body movement is influencing frame lean, etc).

We like to think after considerable work and testing this thing that we're not "full of shite" but that's a matter of opinion. Perhaps try one and see how well it works before damning it (yes, we are trying to sell it of course but we wouldn't bother if it wasn't already proven and tested properly).

Best regards,

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PostPosted: 12:39 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pilot wrote:
This isn't how they do moving bike lean angle measurements though (they use gps and work out average lean angles by knowing your speed and change of direction).
The Leanometer measures bike movement changes with much greater precision than any phone (regardless of what it costs).


Care to explain how you measure lean angles with gps?
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 19 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets assume you're travelling in a straight line and the gps reports your position (in a phone app for example). You turn through 90 degrees and start going straight again. The phone knows your new position and how long it has taken to get from A to B from the gps data. Your speed is known (again from gps) and the phone now also knows your turn radius (it has to assume a simple smooth turn and turns aren't always like this of course).
The phone app uses an equation to give you an average lean angle.

The Leanometer gives you True Lean AND Frame Lean and does it by actually measuring the bikes own forces (you can't get nearer to the action than that). Because of the way Leanometer displays the lean information it's easy for the rider to see how his riding style affects the quality of his cornering (and improve it).

I hope that helps.

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