Loooong project CD175

[grahamd1]

Talk about lucky AND timely.

Yesterday I stripped down the front headlight, fearing the worse looking at the rust and the ones for sale on fleabay looked no better. Sure enough rusted to buggery, worse still someone has used body filler on the chrome headlamp surround, so even if I rubbed it down I doubt it could be re-chromed its like a colinder, full of holes. Another look on fleabay, and like I said they dont look much better, well to be honest it is a 40+ year old part, and the Taiwan ones look KACK, probably coke tins sprayed in chrome paint, or plastic, so no ta.

Then last night did yet another search on fleabay, and BINGO found this (just listed minutes before)

https://i314.photobucket.com/albums/ll431/grahamdrry/CD175/nos1.jpg

Best part ?

BRAND NEW, ORIGINAL HONDA PART in the bag, and ?????
the guy is only 3 miles away, yep clicked the buy it now (£10) without hesitation, and went and collected today.

FUCKING AWESOME (excuse the language, but WOW).
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[grahamd1]

Everyday I trawl the net looking for my ever growing list of parts (rather have REAL parts in a less than good condition than go for far east plastic versions), and last night hit the jackpot.

My handlebars, as you would expect are CRAP, not only has the chrome completly lifted off, but it has rustied in places too, and having saved the switches and throttle slide etc, it would be a shame to have to put refurbed parts on a rubbish bar. Choices were either re-chrome (silly prices), or find an alternative, problem is the CD has a slide throttle (elongated holes in bars), and thats damn rare these days, I did get one from fleabay for a CB125S (smaller brother), but they are too high, and that would mean having to lengthen cables. Needless to say, last night I found one.

https://i314.photobucket.com/albums/ll431/grahamdrry/CD175/hbars.jpg

Next I needed a new brake pedal (the exisiting one has not only rusted badly, but also it looks like someone has slid the length of England on the bikes side, talk about bent to buggery. Again choices were limited, untill last night.

https://i314.photobucket.com/albums/ll431/grahamdrry/CD175/brake.jpg

And the final part was an amazing bonus! I'd heard that front mud guards are like hens teeth, and are just not to be found, I had made enquiries and sure enough "Fat Chance", even asked a guy in Canada how much to ship the one he was listing on fleabay, he wanted over £70 just to ship it!! Mine doesnt even have and old one I could repair

https://i314.photobucket.com/albums/ll431/grahamdrry/CD175/mg2.jpg

So imagine my shock when I got this onehttps://i314.photobucket.com/albums/ll431/grahamdrry/CD175/mg.jpg

And its in the UK, and described as "recast and painted it was fitted and used for a short time and then taken back of as owner / friend decided to fit a different type of forks ect. It fits very well and no rusting"

BARGIN
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XV1100, XV750
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CF70 (Chaly - Rebuild),

[grahamd1]

Now if someone asks me will you hand strip another frame, NO I BLOODY WONT. Oh me for a sand blaster
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[Frost]

That headlight surround is NOS, New Old Stock. It turns up on ebay now and then but companies like Granby Motors often have it in stock too.

[grahamd1]

[UnspeedySam]

Great project. Will be beautiful when finished. Might look at something similar in a few years...but probably 2-stroke.

On a slightly off-topic note. I'll be hand stripping my RXS frame...probably starting this weekend. How long did it take and what was your exact technique? Nitromors then much use of a wire brush, followed by wet and dry paper?
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[grahamd1]

[grahamd1]

Been exchanging emails with Andy at Tripple-s looks like I'm going to be sending the old gals frame (and other bits) up-ta-north.

Meanwhile got my replacement handlebars so tonight I will rub them down, and start assembling the switches etc back onto the bars.
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[grahamd1]

Tried forcing the bushes out using two sockets, but the only thing moving was the inner metal sleave, in the end we had to torch the arms, and push the burning rubber out with the inner sleave, but at least this got them out.

https://i314.photobucket.com/albums/ll431/grahamdrry/CD175/IMAG0341.jpg

Looking at the pics on David Silvers site, it looks like there is also an outer sleave ?

https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/graphics/parts/52147303310_large.jpg

Can someone confirm this before I get loose with the dremmel and start trying to remove the outer part.
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[Frost]

Yup that's how they work, and inner and outer sleeve. I usually get them out by heating the outer part then putting it in a vise with a larger bit of pipe on one side touching only the swinging arm, then a socket or something on the other side touching only the outer of the bush. I put the new ones in the same way but i stick them in the freezer for a few hours before hand and heat the swing arm with a blow torch.
Really it should be done with a hydralic press, but that's no fun

[grahamd1]

Problem is I'm up against 40+ years, and 20 years of just being left out in the elements, hence it would not budge, and that was with 3 of us huffing and puffing. So I think unless someone knows a better way, its gonna be out with the dremmel and grinde the buggers out.;
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[CHR15]

get them glowing and quench them in proper ice cold water.

then get a hacksaw blade, thread it through, reattach the handle and carefully sawcut through. then again at 180 opposite. then chisel out carefully.
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[Teflon-Mike]

[Frost]

Just remember with the hack saw, use long slow strokes or you'll have it on an angle and be through into the swing arm on one end before you know it!

[Teflon-Mike]

[grahamd1]

OK, heres what we did (Farm hand and I), tried knocking the shell of the bushes out of the swingarm, not a chance, tried cutting gently a couple of slots inside the shell (after heating and cooling), avoiding the actual steel arms, again not a chance, still not moving. In the end heated the arm till it glowed with the farm cutting torch, then hit them with a socket that was 26mm across, over a long socket that was smaller than the arm, but larger than 26mm, bingo out they poped. WAHA

https://i314.photobucket.com/albums/ll431/grahamdrry/CD175/IMAG0342.jpg

David Silver tells me these are the very last two bushes in Europe, so no preasure there then
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[Teflon-Mike]

[Frost]

[grahamd1]

OK, whilst I have the bushes in my grubby little hands

Internal diameter 13.5mm
diameter of complete bush 26mm
length of outer bush 42mm
length of inner bush 48.5mm

OK, now my next question, been talking to a finishing company about 4 miles from me, that has come highly recommended by a few people that sell refurbed/rebuilt bikes for a living, I spoke to the company and they told me I could have my frame either powder coated (cheaper option) or Stove enamalled, thoughts ?

I like the idea of a local company as I can take other parts to have them blasted/coated as needed, also they specialise in plastic stripping and painting, so might be handy when it comes to painting.
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[pepperami]

learning much keep it up
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[Frost]

Get the frame powder coated i'd say. The finish is really nice. Stove enamel sounds like it's done to be heat proof?

[grahamd1]

[Teflon-Mike]

[grahamd1]

Thanks for the great explanation, probably go the powder coat route. I'm visiting the company this afternoon, lots of questions I have, hmm (in my worse Joda acsent)...

Hope I will be allowed to take some pictures too.
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[grahamd1]

OK, deal done.

I took my frame, swingarm, swingarm/brake steady bracket, 6 engine head steady brackets and two rear foot rest brackets along to my local company. Asked for the owner (Martin) who not only came out to the car, but also carried EVERYTHING into his LARGE company, and explained step by step the process involved, I asked about masking threads etc, and was reasured bikes are nothing new to them, and he and several of his staff are bikers (Result), and understand what goes where, and what can and what doesnt need doing. I showed him my concern about the rust under the mudguards, "not a problem" he says, and shows me pictures of some even worse, that him and his staff have blasted and even hand sanded before treating.

So I asks what do I get for me money and how much will it cost?

EVERY part (inc the frame) will be blasted and acid then alkaline dipped, primed, and finally powder coated in gloss black (and its a real black). And how much says I?

£100 notes for ALL the parts, and if I get the battery box and lower stearing yoke over to him by tuesday (when he will start work on my parts), they will be included, BLOODY RESULT.

Now I regret wasting my time for the last two weeks stripping the paint off by hand, to say nothing of the cost of nitromoors and wirewheel brushes, electric my time etc, and I won't do that again...when for 100notes someone else can strip/clean and then prime and paint a bike for a damn lot less than it would cost me, to say nothing of how it would look if I did it by hand.

Very tempted now to also get them to paint my colour parts for me as well as they can colour match.
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CD175 (Rebuild)
CF70 (Chaly - Rebuild),