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_Chris_ Nitrous Nuisance
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The Shaggy D.A. wrote: |
They were trying to log in to an empty laptop docking station. | Tears of laughter.
colin1 wrote: |
You dont like your jobs, but that's irrelevant to him, he wants to know how to get into your job.
You think if he only knew how shit the job is, he would be less keen, but you don't know how shit his job is.
I think I'm more techie than salesy, but I've just never got round to learning stuff, so I too wouldnt mind getting into IT.
Low level support calls are probably a lot more interesting than customer service calls, or cold calling.
As mentioned, chris has given some decent info, and I'd agree with Alex that others just tend to air their grievances with the job rather than give any useful info.
But I guess that's maybe because there isnt much info to give to get into a low level 1st line support role.
The things I'm picking up that someone else has said, is that at low level its a lot about patience with users who have little knowledge, so customer service skills are more important.
I reckon I could do that, but I guess a lot of employers want to know you will be able to progress and so want to know you have shown an ability to learn things in the past that are relevant, ie some form of computing qualifications. | As much as I don't like how 'dreary' I read Colin's posts (no offence, Col it's me not you) I have to fully agree. (moreso with the bolded).
Since I was about 10 iv been into computing, my dad once partnered in a firm starting before it went bust; he then got it out of too many £thousands worth of debt to need to think about and back into enough profit to be bought out and the original guy retired but I fucking loved going in and helping/watching my old man fix these PCs.
I'm really good at (tele-based) customer services, and all my freinds come to me for solving problems beause I logically think like that, in my head I sorta visualize where a problem could be within a set of componants and start fixing from the most likely culprits.
I dont care how YOU see your job, fuck, I've done dogs-body-warehousing for far too long.
How do I get into 1st line line support? I want basic experience.
How do I then get into second line suppport? I want papers proving my skills.
How do I then get into top tiers?
Provide realistic answers as guys in the know here; because how else can we start? Hearing moans about how crap it is means nothing to an aspiring apprentice - my rose tinted glasses blind me from the negatives.
See, I've already started there.
Big Edit; hadn't seen page 2... fine start I'm showing.
Cheers folks. ____________________ Roger wrote: Women don't get damp for clingy puppies. Get some better happy pills, hit the gym & buy a medallion the size of a dinner plate. Job done |
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OP as you've probably gleaned by now, the easiest way "in" with no experience, is some experience in 1st line, probably for a major ISP.
If you're struggling, accept another job for an ISP, like provisioning, or sales, or customer services, and then try and move to tech as soon as you can - there's a good chance they'll let you if you're not a muppet, and a fair chance they'll let you even if you are
From 1st line (where i am right now, and looking upwards), i feel that the way up is proving yourself and/or gaining qualifications such as CCNA/CompTIA (depending on what you want to be doing). If you're in the right company you can often get there internally. If not, jump ship as soon as you can. ____________________ -- Ingah |
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The Disapproving Brit World Chat Champion
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Here's how I got into IT:
First, I studied. Lots. Learned my way around NT4, TCP/IP, Office, and whatever other buzzwords I could find in job ads. It's no good being able to talk it if you can't do it. That means you're going to need to study, which will involve probably repeatedly rebuilding your PC with different operating systems and trying to make them work.
Then, I lied. I scrubbed my McDonalds work off my CV, and replaced it with a job at a small company, where I was the only IT staff, looking after their 10 or so PC's around my college hours - the kind of IT work the average small business might need. It implied enough technical experience to interest a first line support recruiter, but being part time and the only IT guy, doesn't overstate my abilities. Then I wrote myself a reference dated the end of my employment there, and noted in my CV that my employment ended because the company closed down.
That was enough to get my foot in the door. All IT managers have had enough idiots on the first line support desk that an interest and basic ability is all you really need to keep the job. I then did 5 years at a major IT services provider (log and route primarily), a few months at a telecoms place, and I've been 6 years at my current place now, and currently doing far more specialist third line stuff, which is when it's just starting to get interesting! ____________________ Current Bikes: 1983 Honda VF400FD / 2003 Honda VT750 Shadow
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Mehty Spanner Monkey
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The best part about working in IT is drinking good coffee and laughing at the people who are trying to patronise you over something they know nothing about.
Don't bother with a NVQ or anything along those lines - i'm being forced into a lvl 2/3 course and its degrading: 'This is a IDE ribbon, this is a hard drive, and this is a ehhh *Reads what the label says* oh this is a keyboard
Dunno if its me, but after working in IT (mainly as a hardware technician, while covering everything else) for about 7 years, most of the courses are frustrating.
Phone support makes me want to rip my hair out, remote support is a nightmare just trying to get some people to install the remote software. Even trying to explain to some people that their computer IS DEAD, NO AMOUNT OF SELLOTAPE WILL FIX IT (really) gets old.
My suggestion would be find a area you'r interested in, get what ever pointless pieces of paper you need to practice it 'professionally' get some experience and work contracts/free lance - Its good money, always a new environment and your not dealing with the patronising old dears who try to pay you in sweets. ____________________ 2007 YBR 125 (sold), 2011 ER6-N (sold), LHD 1999 GSX750F (sold), ?????? |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 12 years, 71 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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