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liquidsnake
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 07 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had no problem with companies offering me quotes for multi bike, and Im in the worst category possible - young northern Irish male. I found mce where by far the most helpful and cheap, they were happy to let me insure 2 bikes (although in the end I only insured one) and both are modified. In fact when on the phone to them they said I didn't have to declare a lot of the mods, including my swing arm upgrade aftermarket suspension and exhaust as well as all the aesthetic changes to it. The only thing they were iffy on was driving an unrestricted bike to the dealer to get restricted but actually left it up to me to decide whether I risk it. I've 1 years Ncb and 5 months full license.

It seems very odd that you've had little luck with insurance co operation so far especially given your description of your needs. A friend of mine works in an insurance brokers here in NI and you'd pretty much be a wet dream for them
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PostPosted: 00:49 - 08 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an MCE multi bike insurance so Im not sure where this 'don't do multi' bikes comes from. It's not as good as my Carole Nash one was, in that each bike ads more to the policy whereas CN one had a high starting price but basically you paid for the most expensive machines and the others were a nominal sum. Trouble was at my last but one renewal, CN wanted over £500FC for a muti bike with my STriple whereas MCE were £150FC.

I can also ride other bikes, TP , on my MCE policy.
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PostPosted: 07:19 - 08 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can nobody read any more? She's not saying these companies don't do multibike quotes, she's saying they don't do multibike quotes ONLINE. You have to waste your time phoning them (unless it's Carole Nash).
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PostPosted: 09:16 - 08 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

LordShaftesbury wrote:
Can nobody read any more? She's not saying these companies don't do multibike quotes, she's saying they don't do multibike quotes ONLINE. You have to waste your time phoning them (unless it's Carole Nash).


My MCE policy was done online, I admit I phoned up but that was just to confirm everything as I don't trust the bastards to get it right.
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 08 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
My MCE policy was done online, I admit I phoned up but that was just to confirm everything as I don't trust the bastards to get it right.

I just tried to get a multibike quote from MCE and there was no option to add a second bike. Useless.
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 08 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

yambabe wrote:
mjn51 wrote:
I've just taken a multi bike policy with bennetts online,after getting the quote via meerkat, after enetering the usual data it then asks if you want to add another bike
simples.


See above. Meerkat couldn't quote me cos my NCD is bigger than the number of years I have had my licence. No way around it except to lie about one or the other, both of which would mean I wouldn't get an accurate quote!


Question : Does 10 years make any difference over 6 ? when it comes to the quote ? once you hit the maximum NCD.
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 08 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does this mean? It's in the fine print of my quote from Carole Nash:

Quote:
Agreed value (if applicab e)
This is the amount shown in the Policy Schedule,
which represents the value of your motorcycle. This
is the most we will pay you if your motorcycle is lost,
totally destroyed or where the reasonable cost of
repairs is greater than the agreed value.
Note: Agreed value can be considered only if you have
submitted all necessary photographs
(and valuation
if required) and these have been received and
accepted by Carole Nash Insurance Consultants Ltd. If
this documentation has not been received and your
motorcycle is lost, totally destroyed or damaged, the
most we will pay will be market value.

What's all this about photographs? So if I don't send them photos of my bike I can choose to enter an artificially low value (to get the premium lower) but they will still pay market value?
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 08 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

LordShaftesbury wrote:
What does this mean? It's in the fine print of my quote from Carole Nash:



When I had my Goldwing trike it's value was in excess of £15000. I had to send photographs and give full details etc. Then they agreed in case of accident, this would be the settlement value. Bear in mind this was an F reg 1500 Wing and the value for a bike of that vintage was about £5000 at the time.
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 08 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I could put down my bike is worth £10 (which would really reduce the premiums) and as long as I don't send any photographs I'll still get the market value if it gets nicked/wrecked?

How come your bike was worth 3x its market value by the way?
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 08 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

LordShaftesbury wrote:
Hmm, what should I put here I wonder? I've held my "bike licence" ever since I got my provisional bike license in 2007. So does that make it 5 years? It's not like it's asking "How long ago have you held a full, non-A2 bike licence?"

Provision entitlement isn't a license, although in practice we do treat it as one - for now.

They're asking "how long have you had the specific license category that you've just told us you've got" although they do go out of their way to obfuscate it. It doesn't help that most of the mongs don't distinguish between A and A<=25kW, although you can be damn sure they will when the DVLA nick 2 years off of you when the license upgrades.

It's almost as though they want us to answer incorrectly and then stitch us up with swingeing charges later. Careful Now.
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 08 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

With CN, because they originally specialised in classic bikes there was often an agreed value which had to be agreed with the use of photos etc.

Probably won't even apply if you have a bog-standard bike, it's more for your restored-to-concourse classics and one-off builds I think.

Tried to fudge the NCD with the meerkats. They also don't believe Suzuki made a VS800 in 2007. Rolling Eyes Must be an illusion sat out there in my garage then.......
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PostPosted: 03:08 - 09 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

LordShaftesbury wrote:
So I could put down my bike is worth £10 (which would really reduce the premiums) and as long as I don't send any photographs I'll still get the market value if it gets nicked/wrecked?

How come your bike was worth 3x its market value by the way?


Photos are only needed for an agreed valuation. As Yambabe says, these valuations are for specials and on offs. This was my trike, as you can see it was very much a special and why it was worth more than the original bike.

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PostPosted: 08:43 - 09 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
They're asking "how long have you had the specific license category that you've just told us you've got" although they do go out of their way to obfuscate it.

Yeah, I'm sure that's what they think they're asking, but I have a screenshot of what they're actually asking.

yambabe wrote:
With CN, because they originally specialised in classic bikes there was often an agreed value which had to be agreed with the use of photos etc.

Probably won't even apply if you have a bog-standard bike, it's more for your restored-to-concourse classics and one-off builds I think

Excellent, so the "agreed" value doesn't apply to me, only the market value (meaning I can put anything I like in the value box to get a low premium).
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: WTF Reply with quote

I had the gixer and shadow on multi with Ebike and it cost £145.
Sold the gixer and just got renewal through for the shadow only, £152.28???????????????????????? guess after seven years they dont want my custom anymore
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 01 Aug 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we're bumping the thread...

LordShaftesbury wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
They're asking "how long have you had the specific license category that you've just told us you've got" although they do go out of their way to obfuscate it.

Yeah, I'm sure that's what they think they're asking, but I have a screenshot of what they're actually asking.

When I read this, I nearly had a little accident in the crotch region. That's so, so, the right thing to do. Thumbs Up
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