Victory Hammer - worst quality ever?

[Rogerborg]

DISCLAIMER
I was not asked to start this thread by the bike's owner. I have no connection with him, had never met him before seeing the bike, spoke with him only briefly at the time and have had no contact with him since, other than via our respective posts here. I have no connection with any other motorcycle brand, dealer, or anyone in the motorcycle trade.

These pictures document a bike that was being used for its intended purpose in a public place - at a motorcycle ride out, where one might expect to find motorcycles. The owner made no attempt to draw attention to it, but it did attract attention and questions from many people, both for its good looks from a distance, and then its condition when seen up close.

Any suggestion that it's somehow wrong or malicious for motorcycle riders to see, photograph and comment on a motorcycle in a public place, with or without the permission of the owner, manufacturer or any other party, would be contemptible and beyond ridiculous.

The original post contained an erroneous claim, since corrected, that the bike had done dry miles only. That was my error and mine alone. I misheard or misrecollected, as people will do. It should be obvious that if any malice were intended by the owner then he would claim dry miles only. No such claim is being made - indeed, he has made the point that the bike has been ridden in all weathers in the locale where it was sold as he was assured that it could be.

I believe that the reported age and mileage are correct, and the condition speaks for itself, and will continue to do so unless and until the vehicle is sorted.

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I was vaguely aware of Victory motorcycles, a premium Yank brand that aims to make Harley Davidson look like it's running a pile-'em-high-sell-'em-cheap marque.

Today I had the opportunity to see one in the metal. From 10 yards it looked properly nice, really purposeful, with minimal homofag. It was around a year old, had done fewer than 6000 miles, and its owner swore he washed it religiously.

Ready for this?

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My 3 year old all-weathers Chinese 125 lasted better than that. The pictures don't really do it justice, it was in a shocking state. Flaking paint/powdercoat, corrosion setting in, bubbling under the £800 (eight. hundred. pounds) headlight.

I was told that the local dealer didn't want to know, and that the warranty didn't cover "cosmetics". I was further told that Victory UK's position is that it should have been pressure washed with hot water after every ride then cleaned with a bucket and sponge.

I'm just at a loss for words. That's £14,000 worth of bike falling apart before the guy's eyes and he's apparently being treated worse than some bike-in-a-box punter. He reckoned it's made in China then shipped to the US where they slap a "Made in the USA" sticker on it and another 0 on the end of the price. Hard to believe, but... look at it.
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[Vincent]

Crap Yanky finish, (same as the name ), just like the older Harleys. A mate of mine saved up religeously for a new Harley in the late '70s and he was in tears when, after one season, it had turned into a pile of rusty shite. OK if you live in California mind.
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[keggyhander]

That's shameful.

I'll stick with my ridden-in-all-weathers Yam.

[Polarbear]

[dannymassive]

Completely shocking!!!

I really wouldn't have expected that on anything other than a Chinese machine.

And dry miles only!!???

Can't believe Victory UK are basically saying that it is acceptable. Shame on them.

Thanks for making us aware of this.
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[Polarbear]

Funnily enough I was reading a review of one of these a few days ago.

https://img17.imageshack.us/img17/504/sdc10889u.jpg

They actually quite liked the bike but said there were 'issues' with the quality control. Now considering that the bike mags do not like upsetting their advertisers, and seeing the pictures roger posted, I wdo wonder if Victorys QC is rather patchy for what are very expensive bikes.

Pity, as I quite fancy one of these in a horribly perverted looks like an old american car way
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[keggyhander]

As a cruiser fan I think all Victory's bikes are bloody awful.

[panrider_uk]

[Teflon-Mike]

[Rogerborg]

[Seb]

Was he actually pressure washing it? Victory's advice seems to go against common sense when it comes to engine casings that are painted that way.

Still, although it looks like it's covered in road salt or something from those pictures, paint flaking off bits like the luggage rail is unacceptable no matter how it's being washed. for victory on that one and being so unhelpful.

*bah, beaten to it
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[Polarbear]

[G]

[Rogerborg]

[duhawkz]

[Tenko]

Shame - I quite like that lime green one they used to do (Haven't got a pic but I'm sure somebody else can oblige).

[Vincent]

[Rogerborg]

Overheard: "Oh, an underslung caliper! Everyone else stopped doing them in the 1970s and 80s, because they're utter shit."
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[keggyhander]

[Alpha-9]

[duhawkz]

I just find your disliking of victory's, a little odd given your unique erm "style"
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[Vincent]

You wouldn't want to ride the green one in the wet, wether it rusts or not, as you'd get covered in crap from the back wheel
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[U_W v2.0]

no kidding, a mudgaurd that low really is pointless, if i had one it'd be the first thing i did, adjust where it sat.

on a side note, its a really stupid idea to wash a bike prior to selling and even more stupid to buy a washed bike as it hides any leaks by washing away the marks.

like you shouldnt buy a car who's owner has washed the engine.

meh
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[Chris750]

I know someone who has one of these.

They have had it two years and use it in the wet.

It's absolutely immaculate.
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[_matt]

begs the question, why spend £14k on a new bike when you could spend £1k on an older Yammy/Suzuki/Honda that wont turn into a rusty bag 'o wank if left outside for a bit
shocked at the quality of that. for that kinda money it should be spot on
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