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| Bomberman wrote: | | Kradmelder wrote: |
I have been working since I was 14. My parents, like me, didnt believe in entitlement so i had to work if I wanted money for normal teenage things. Then army for 5 years, which is work for fark all pay, but they paid my education.
Then if you have kids, you work to provide.
I still found time for myself and bikes
White men have worked and sacrificed for 100 generations. Now be a man and bear up. You will survive and find pleasure.
If you work hard, you will have a business, work less hard and money comes in. Then you reap what you sow. It has always been the white man's burden. Now do your bit and it will work out for you.
Now I am wealthy, work half time, ride my bikes, kids provided for, and more work than I want to do. hard work pays off.
Look at the darkies and see what sitting under a tree all day does for you |
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ah you just have a confused welfare state upbringing, not a good solid apartheid God Race Nation one. Then you grow up right, equipped to make a good living, even if you emigrate to the UK.
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Become your own boss. Work as much or as little as you like. Be Awesome.
Bear in mind that if you dont do any work you are fucked!
I love my job, it is awesome. |
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that is what I do. start work at 10, somedays take it easy, but when deadlines are there, I graft.
I do big projects that invoice fees worth at least 6 months salary or more. So it is flexible. But you are right. When work is due, you work harder than an employee |
I can mirror those sentiments. I started my own business 11 years ago, worked my absolute nuts off for the first 8 years and since then have been able to ease back. I now spend maybe 28 hours a week actually at work, i.e. in the physical business.
When Im there I work solidly, no break for lunch, just head down and crack on. I then add time on an evening, weekends and also tend to work whilst on holiday if I am not actually away from home.
I can take a day off when I like, go to work when I like, leave when I like.
However if we have a quiet period then its me pulling the long hours and ensuring that the bills get paid. My staff still do their 9-5.30, Im the one taking up the slack and ensuring that they still get their wage. Staff are always, always, paid in full and on time.
When business is good lifes great but when business is slow its extremely hard both mentally and physically.
If you are going to start a business then do it when you are used to a low income and don't have commitments. I went straight from university to the business so the piss poor money for the first year or two was no hardship, I was used to being skint!
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| apexperf wrote: | | CaNsA wrote: |
Become your own boss. Work as much or as little as you like. Be Awesome.
Bear in mind that if you dont do any work you are fucked!
I love my job, it is awesome. |
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that is what I do. start work at 10, somedays take it easy, but when deadlines are there, I graft.
I do big projects that invoice fees worth at least 6 months salary or more. So it is flexible. But you are right. When work is due, you work harder than an employee |
I can mirror those sentiments. I started my own business 11 years ago, worked my absolute nuts off for the first 8 years and since then have been able to ease back. I now spend maybe 28 hours a week actually at work, i.e. in the physical business.
When Im there I work solidly, no break for lunch, just head down and crack on. I then add time on an evening, weekends and also tend to work whilst on holiday if I am not actually away from home.
I can take a day off when I like, go to work when I like, leave when I like.
However if we have a quiet period then its me pulling the long hours and ensuring that the bills get paid. My staff still do their 9-5.30, Im the one taking up the slack and ensuring that they still get their wage. Staff are always, always, paid in full and on time.
When business is good lifes great but when business is slow its extremely hard both mentally and physically.
If you are going to start a business then do it when you are used to a low income and don't have commitments. I went straight from university to the business so the piss poor money for the first year or two was no hardship, I was used to being skint! |
I went from university to basically the same I did in the army, only now I needed a visa to cross the border, not just drive across in a Ratel lol! (an apc). Basically living in the bush in black countries, propping them up from all their BS, building bridges and roads, armed escort, install wellfields. Only it was far less sustainable and europeans paid us. And now I had to deal with the corrupt offical keeping his own down, instead of pushing him aside.
Anyway, to worry about it will drive you mad. Just did my bit, piad my house in 5 years, and took a contract in south america. Over 100 years of whitey breaking his back for the darkie, and nothing to show for it. It will no longer be my back.
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I'll raise you by ten.
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how much money you got?
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My take on it: work is necessary, you'll grow out of the "I wanna be free" shit, when you realise you need money to do the stuff you actually want to do with your life. Assuming you can't afford to go live in a log cabin on some island. The only certainty is death, and other people taking your money, taxation in its many forms.
Relatively this is not a bad island to live on, really.
Advice:
Aim for autonomy as much as possible, even the illusion of it. I work nights on my own, so don't see or speak to a 'boss' from month to month. Healthy.
Enjoy the time that is 'yours'. Make the most of every second of it. This means getting out and doing shit, not sulking in front of a computer screen. Run your weekend on adrenaline if needed, catch up on sleep during the working week (whatever that may be) whilst you are in zombie mode anyway.
Focus on what is good, and not that which is bad. I.e. you are healthy, you have skills to sell, you have a brain, you are valued.
Don't let yourself be walked over, there is always work for intelligent people who actually want to work, don't fall into the "woe is me, the economy is fucked, if I leave this shit job i'll never get another" trap. That's a ticket to waking up at 65, not having lived a life.
Try to develop a hands on skill, or something that transcends industries, and has value. Don't over specialise. Don't be a manager of 'nothing'. Because when the 'nothing' evaporates, guess what it leaves you with?
Try and look past vanity, and try to look beyond materialism. Focus on people, and experiences. Fuck the rest of it, memories are all you are taking with you, and the only thing that cannot be taken from you. Health, body, possessions, money, it will all abandon you eventually.
Set goals for yourself, in your own life, keep them in mind, and make no apologies for them. Remember why you are doing this...
Time you enjoy wasting, is not wasted time.
Don't be having any tasty daydreams about it all being better 'in the end'. Live now, it's the only chance you will get. If you can't do it now, you certainly won't be doing it when you are 65. So don't play the waiting game.
Do something TODAY that makes you happy. Consider that there is no tomorrow.
Be stoic. Be British. Stop fucking complaining and get on with it. If you can find a reason to be happy in your life, and god forbid your work too, you are ahead of 95% of the population. If you don't like something, change it.
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| WildGoose wrote: | My take on it: work is necessary, you'll grow out of the "I wanna be free" shit, when you realise you need money to do the stuff you actually want to do with your life. Assuming you can't afford to go live in a log cabin on some island. The only certainty is death, and other people taking your money, taxation in its many forms.
Relatively this is not a bad island to live on, really.
Advice:
Aim for autonomy as much as possible, even the illusion of it. I work nights on my own, so don't see or speak to a 'boss' from month to month. Healthy.
Enjoy the time that is 'yours'. Make the most of every second of it. This means getting out and doing shit, not sulking in front of a computer screen. Run your weekend on adrenaline if needed, catch up on sleep during the working week (whatever that may be) whilst you are in zombie mode anyway.
Focus on what is good, and not that which is bad. I.e. you are healthy, you have skills to sell, you have a brain, you are valued.
Don't let yourself be walked over, there is always work for intelligent people who actually want to work, don't fall into the "woe is me, the economy is fucked, if I leave this shit job i'll never get another" trap. That's a ticket to waking up at 65, not having lived a life.
Try to develop a hands on skill, or something that transcends industries, and has value. Don't over specialise. Don't be a manager of 'nothing'. Because when the 'nothing' evaporates, guess what it leaves you with?
Try and look past vanity, and try to look beyond materialism. Focus on people, and experiences. Fuck the rest of it, memories are all you are taking with you, and the only thing that cannot be taken from you. Health, body, possessions, money, it will all abandon you eventually.
Set goals for yourself, in your own life, keep them in mind, and make no apologies for them. Remember why you are doing this...
Time you enjoy wasting, is not wasted time.
Don't be having any tasty daydreams about it all being better 'in the end'. Live now, it's the only chance you will get. If you can't do it now, you certainly won't be doing it when you are 65. So don't play the waiting game.
Do something TODAY that makes you happy. Consider that there is no tomorrow.
Be stoic. Be British. Stop fucking complaining and get on with it. If you can find a reason to be happy in your life, and god forbid your work too, you are ahead of 95% of the population. If you don't like something, change it. |
Nice pep talk, i'm psyched 
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I’ve thought about this a lot in my time and often it is quite hard to swallow, when you look at the grand scheme of things.
I’ve worked in the Engineering industry now since 2004, I am a CAD guy and have been since I left school and picked up an opportunity. I’ve worked with the older generation in this industry, you know the ones, the kind of guys and gals who are completely powerless to ‘the company’...quite obviously borderline insane but keep it under wraps so they can spend some time alone, watching steam trains at the weekends in a rain mack with a flask of weak coffee. Or spend time with a family that is slowly killing them because they spend a fractional amount of time doing something they enjoy but predominately have to slave over the children and sad act of a spouse.
These are the kinds of people who come early, stay late...I’ve seen these people pass away, a wealth of knowledge lost and who gives a fuck?
NO ONE.
No one gives a fuck about you when you’re gone, except your friends/colleagues who are waiting in line to drop out too and even then, they probably know so little about you personally, it’s all been a pretty wasted journey for both parties.
I’ve witnessed a guy leave work for a couple of hours to go to a funeral of a friend, only to come back, sit in his chair quietly and get on with work. There’s nothing for him to do outside...don’t be fooled by these people who claim they’d be bored if they weren’t working...wtf do they know about your spare time, what your good at, what your passion is. Fuck’em.
These people can be looked on and respected on the one hand, on the other, you could say that they have wasted themselves, they’ve burnt out too early and not lived. I’ve worked under a mature boss or two, their main concern was the fact that I sometimes arrived five to ten minutes late and left at the end of the day...all of my work was done, I didn’t have a shitty attitude about work but they decided to make my life hell by picking up on this kind of thing.
These people are sad and lonely, it scares the crap out me that an individual could become so shallow, so lifeless, so redundant.
I am saddened by the fact that my real goals are out of reach due to time and money, I have invention ideas, I have business ideas, all of which I can’t get off the ground because work is hard and time is limited. I’m working on it though and that’s what keeps me going...one day I could say good bye to these losers and create something brilliant. The majority of you do indeed work five days a week to enjoy two, in the UK this is life but this is only because of the kind of structure that has been forged by our governments. They get what they want out of you and the moment you pop off, your number is taken out of the book and your children replace the void.
Your house hold is a unit, a production line, you’re a number.
Saying that, I’m quite partial to the odd material item now and then but I hate the idea of stealing, so I work for it. I am a little rocked by the notion I have to maintain or I’m going to drop off the radar and end up begging with a three legged dog.
Make sure you express yourself in every way possible, one positive thought leads to another, positive things will come your way and that’s a great machine to get rolling.
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| LordShaftesbury wrote: | | killa wrote: | Iso they can spend some time alone, watching steam trains at the weekends in a rain mack with a flask of weak coffee. |
It's weak lemon drink isn't it?
| Alpha-9 wrote: | I've been on the grind only 2 years and I still don't get how people can bare it, |
I think people in this country just don't realise how good they have it, both compared to most other countries and compared to our ancestors throughout history.
The world doesn't owe you a living. If you don't make yourself useful to other people in some way why should other people give you anything? |
I suppose it's a matter of doing something you enjoy rather than just 'getting by' - But even now I still don't know what I want to do, do any of you? How? I've never known, forever a jack of all trades master of nothing
“If you want to be a grocer, or a general, or a politician, or a judge, you will invariably become it; that is your punishment. If you never know what you want to be, if you live what some might call the dynamic life but what I will call the artistic life, if each day you are unsure of who you are and what you know you will never become anything, and that is your reward.”
― Oscar Wilde
Even working full time, it's not enough, not enough money, not enough time, i'm just getting older rapidly, felt like I was 15 not so long ago
I like your replies though guys, are very feel good and inspiring
Just ordered a new electro acoustic guitar time to pick up my hobbies again
And shafty, it's not that I want things for free (That'd be nice) but I want to do things that make me happy, I'm only making money because I have to to live, else I wouldn't, i'd just do the things I enjoy, maybe busk for it 
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| Posted: 10:17 - 02 Jul 2012 Post subject: Re: How do you deal with full time work? |
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| Alpha-9 wrote: | I suppose it's a matter of doing something you enjoy rather than just 'getting by' - But even now I still don't know what I want to do, do any of you? How? I've never known, forever a jack of all trades master of nothing |
You need to things - a passion for something and a will to actually do it. Avoid trying to become anything specific, just do what you're interested in. We're lucky enough in most of Europe to be able to make a living doing anything, so long as you're passionate about it and willing to put in the graft. Different levels of passion and graft are required for different jobs and to be top of any of them you need to be higher.
Work out your motivations, do you enjoy anything just for the love of it or are you more interested purely in the money? Fortunately a passion tends to also relate to an innate skill, very few people are passionate about things they're really bad at.
Then figure out how much graft you're willing to put in. If you love motorbike racing you're gonna have to work incredibly hard as many people can do the same. If your not willing to put in the required work just move to your next favourite thing until you find something that's a nice balance between your passion and work ethic.
The key thing is you really can do anything to earn your money, you just have to choose to do it, if you enjoy it and work hard the money will happen.
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| Alpha-9 wrote: | “If you want to be a grocer, or a general, or a politician, or a judge, you will invariably become it; that is your punishment. If you never know what you want to be, if you live what some might call the dynamic life but what I will call the artistic life, if each day you are unsure of who you are and what you know you will never become anything, and that is your reward.”
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Yeah, Oscar Wilde knew all about the daily grind.
Back in reality, there are somewhere between six and seven billion of us. There aren't seven billion "enjoyable" jobs. If you expect someone to manufacture your trainers and empty your bins and unblock your drains and put fish in boxes so you can buy it in Tescos you have to accept that those jobs need to be done. What makes you (nothing personal; by "you" I mean any one person) so special that you have the right to an enjoyable job while someone else has to shove chicken's legs up their arses so you can have your Sunday roast?
Money makes it all better though. People say it doesn't make you happy - I call BS on that one. Expensive items and trinketry may not cure your woes, but conversely there's nothing more demoralising than not having enough cash to get by. Walking around the supermarket picking up anything you fancy and not having to worry about whether you can afford it is an underrated experience.
What's even nicer is if you can build up enough of a nestegg to not have to work for a bit. Because then you get to go to work knowing that you don't need your job; you're there because you choose to be and the minute it stops being fun you can walk. Even if you have no plans to walk out, knowing that you can is enough to get you through the bad days. |
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| angryjonny wrote: | | Alpha-9 wrote: | “If you want to be a grocer, or a general, or a politician, or a judge, you will invariably become it; that is your punishment. If you never know what you want to be, if you live what some might call the dynamic life but what I will call the artistic life, if each day you are unsure of who you are and what you know you will never become anything, and that is your reward.”
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Yeah, Oscar Wilde knew all about the daily grind.
Back in reality, there are somewhere between six and seven billion of us. There aren't seven billion "enjoyable" jobs. If you expect someone to manufacture your trainers and empty your bins and unblock your drains and put fish in boxes so you can buy it in Tescos you have to accept that those jobs need to be done. What makes you (nothing personal; by "you" I mean any one person) so special that you have the right to an enjoyable job while someone else has to shove chicken's legs up their arses so you can have your Sunday roast?
Money makes it all better though. People say it doesn't make you happy - I call BS on that one. Expensive items and trinketry may not cure your woes, but conversely there's nothing more demoralising than not having enough cash to get by. Walking around the supermarket picking up anything you fancy and not having to worry about whether you can afford it is an underrated experience.
What's even nicer is if you can build up enough of a nestegg to not have to work for a bit. Because then you get to go to work knowing that you don't need your job; you're there because you choose to be and the minute it stops being fun you can walk. Even if you have no plans to walk out, knowing that you can is enough to get you through the bad days. |
Ambition, desire to be happy. I don't know a single shelf stacker that is happy in their job. I've moved up slightly in the world since my first jobs, but it's still not enough.
I'm not content. I want more.
It's not about deserving it more than others, it's about wanting it more than others.
And yeah, I do think I am a hell of a lot better than most people, no problem saying that. Everyone should have a mentality like that, putting yourself down and saying i'll do no better with my life than emptying bins is depressing at best. But fuck, if you're happy doing whatever it is, binman, shelfstacker whatever, then fair play to you. If you're happy roll with it, if you're not, change it.
I'm not unhappy in my job by a long shot, i've hit a plateau where it's not requiring much concentration and i'm starting to not give a fuck, that's when it's time to move on.
All I can do is work towards advancing, the NHS is pretty good in its incremental pay and different pay bands so you can work your way up, so I may have a chance to move up in time
I wanna be a billionaire, so fucking bad
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I think I'm similar to you alpha, I always think why do I work 5 days a week and get just 2 days off! 
I would love to just do my interests everyday all day, but I've realised unless I win the lottery it's not happening
I know people that sit at home and play xbox everyday on the dole.
And whilst that might be fun for a week, in the bigger picture they are fucking themselves for life, no job experience, getting what £50 a week. (Probable more than that now  )
Better to be working I tell myself, need savings, car, bike ect.
I usually think I wouldn't be able to live the lifestyle I want if I don't have a job, so there is no choice!
Some mornings though it would be nice to have a lie in.. 
Keep at it is all I can say, think of the end of the month and weekends.
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