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Posted: 20:07 - 31 Jul 2012 Post subject: Motorcycle luggage? |
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Hi,
I intend to go long term camping/touring on my bike sometime in the next month. I'll be on the road, and stopping every night to pitch my sleeping bag/tent, and i'll be doing this for approximately 28 nights.
Since I won't be home for a good 3 weeks at least, I need some fairly large capacity luggage in order to carry the materials I need.
I have a somewhat medium top box, But I also need large panniers (soft are fine- just need to be large capacity), aswel as a big tank bag with a window for direction sheets, and also a large touring bag to sit on the back seat along witht the tent and sleeping bag.
What would you guys recommend? I'm in need of large, (but still fairly good value/cheap) soft luggage.
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Posted: 21:19 - 31 Jul 2012 Post subject: |
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Try a dry bag, they are cheap and waterproof (sold at go outdoors
etc).
I have it vertical as I don't like anything wider tham my bars but you can use smaller ones bungee'd on sideways.
Maybe not to everyones taste but they do the job
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Posted: 23:49 - 31 Jul 2012 Post subject: |
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The main issue I'd have with that is I'd want the weight lower down. Panniers really add something here. Not sure if the'd be able to take that massive bag though! |
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I've done about 20,000 miles or so on 4 trips on the continent over the past year. Purpose-built soft luggage was mostly a waste of time; fiddly to attach, needing balanced packaging etc., not very secure even if you're just grabbing a break at a McD.
The best solution I've found so far is a sturdy gym bag - this style of thing: https://www.amazon.co.uk/The-North-Face-Duffel-Large/dp/B000P9EDVS
strapped on to rear grab handles with luggage straps like these: https://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_172268_langId_-1_categoryId_165760.
Don't worry about the gym bag being waterproof. If it starts out waterproof, it won't stay waterproof. Instead, pack things that need water protection (which turns out to be almost everything) into rubble sacks available at DIY stores - basically plastic bags with the thickest plastic you can find - and put these inside the gym bag. The sacks double as compartmentalization, making packing far easier. I've gone through continuous rain for hours on end, and torrential downpours too, the kind of rain that looks like fog, you can only see the lights of the car in front of you, and everybody has slowed down to 30mph on the autobahn, and been glad to be able to put on dry clothes and boot up my dry laptop once I got to my hotel. A trick I use with my laptop is to put a wooden chopping board underneath it, wrap it in a rubble sack, then use the combination as the floor of the gym bag, so clothes etc. mediate all the force from the luggage straps. This works especially well with thin laptops like macbook airs.
You can probably stack more than one bag up, especially if you don't have a pillion, of course put lighter things in higher bags.
Hard side-panniers might be better for people who have the budget for it, and don't mind feeling like they're piloting a barge; I'm not a fan though. On some trips, I've used a topbox, very handy for transporting shopping for self-catered apartment or locking in helmet when parking up for a meal or sightsee, but I don't keep anything heavy in it at higher speeds - nothing more than waterproofs and spare bulbs. ____________________ Bikes: S1000R, SH350; Exes: Vity 125, PS125, YBR125, ER6f, VFR800, Brutale 920, CB600F, SH300x4
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Posted: 10:39 - 01 Aug 2012 Post subject: |
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Peirre oBollox wrote: |
The top of that bag must be over 5ft off the ground, so its not exactly low down keeping the COG low
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Have toured with that bag many a time and don't even notice it
now. Not nearly as heavy (bag only contains, tent sleeping bag/mat and pillow) or intrusive as a passenger which would be in a similar position.
Agree though about not taking too much clothes etc, you can always rinse stuff out. I'm going down to Spain next week and
will take very little kit and clothes. If it wasn't for the camping gear I can get everything I need in my top box. ____________________ Current Bikes: 2006 Suzuki Bandit 1200, 2008 Suzuki SV650N.
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Posted: 11:27 - 01 Aug 2012 Post subject: |
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Ventura luggage is that sort of height and I haven't found it a problem.
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Posted: 12:50 - 01 Aug 2012 Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the advice!
Well, I just won on ebay some soft panniers.
In the auction is two Oxford Sport Panniers 60 'litres'.
An Oxford tank bag, and some Oxford passenger gym type bag. Looking at the size of the panniers they seem very large and should be pretty good in size.
The auction also came with appropriate straps etc.
£62
So along with my although cheap, but hard top box it should all be fairly ample for my 3-4 weeks away camping.
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Wtf is it with rok straps and not doing plain black ones ffs.
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Posted: 13:57 - 01 Aug 2012 Post subject: |
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Get yourself some Oxford panniers. I wouldn't recommend the 1st time ones though, as there are better around.
Check out the Oxford Lifetime X60 sports panniers. I've got a set of the older model ones and they quality. 60litres capacity, and top loading, making things much easier. They cost £120 but often M&P have them on sale at £60 ____________________ Motorcycle headlight bulbs and HIDs
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Posted: 14:51 - 01 Aug 2012 Post subject: |
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I got some oxford rip off ones for £30 - They're identical to the 'Oxford First Time' ones.
TBH they're okay. I don't like the faff though, so this time I'm taking a big holdall on the back seat, sleeping bag etc on a little rack and a tankbag for wallet / phone / sat nav etc.
This way when I rock up to a F1 hotel, it's two bungees and I can take all of my shit inside, without having to take individual items out of the panniers, and I don't have to put things back in wet panniers when it's pissed it down overnight.
Winner.
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Posted: 15:57 - 01 Aug 2012 Post subject: |
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I probably would bother with panniers on a solo trip either, but most of my tours are two-up.
When using panniers I always find that they remain waterproof without the covers, but then I always have my belongings in plastic bags.
This way, its pull up to the hotel/campsite. Open two zips and pull out the bags, close two zips and i'm good to go. No faffing about with bungies and the like. ____________________ Motorcycle headlight bulbs and HIDs
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Posted: 00:00 - 02 Aug 2012 Post subject: |
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Actually I just linked to that to indicate the shape of the thing I'm referring to. I agree; I wouldn't put something this price on the back, not least because it'll get sprayed in oil specks on the left hand side from the chain.
I have ROK straps, but I don't use them for strapping my bag on when touring on my bike; I don't use anything elastic. I use two luggage straps each rated for 220daN (about 224 kg) of tension, and do them up tight. I want the weight solidly attached to the bike so that it doesn't move at all, especially when on the fun roads.
The straps are very handy on my scooter though, because the seat needs to come up to refuel. The straps with the clips in them make it easy to temporarily remove luggage. ____________________ Bikes: S1000R, SH350; Exes: Vity 125, PS125, YBR125, ER6f, VFR800, Brutale 920, CB600F, SH300x4
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 271 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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