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Mario_Kempes
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 07 Jan 2014    Post subject: Unsecured bag on a Speed Triple? What could go wrong? Reply with quote

https://www.bandin.info/uploaded_images/2010/11/motoabrasada1.jpg

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PostPosted: 22:08 - 07 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like your seats got bad aids.
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 07 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gutted! How did that happen? Bag fallen to one side and melted on the exhaust? Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 07 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bag of what? Lava?!
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 07 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like you had a bag of thermite on there
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 07 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bag slides onto exhaust, bag catches fire, fire starts to eat lovely bike.

OP stops at traffic lights, guy in car next to him says "Hey! You're on fire!" OP looks at guy and says smugly "Yeh, I'm really cooking..." as he cracks a wheelie off the line...
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 07 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

shouldn't melt / catch fire unless its on the meta tip as the Cf doesn't get that hot ???

and I suspect a battery pack gone pop
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 07 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like you need a new rear tyre as well as a new rear end.
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PostPosted: 00:07 - 08 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welshd1k wrote:
shouldn't melt / catch fire unless its on the meta tip as the Cf doesn't get that hot ???

and I suspect a battery pack gone pop


But if it gets in the way of the exhaust gas, It's toast.

My VFR blasted a 4" hole clean through an oxford pannier and the ABS plastic drill box that was inside it when it slipped back. The exhaust can on that bike was always cool enough to touch with your bare hand.
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PostPosted: 00:37 - 08 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cousin rode across the Ozz outback a few years back on a KLR650, he was too stingy to buy proper panniers but neither did he have the ingenuity to fashion some out of suitable materials i.e. not wood with the high rise exhaust.

Cue him riding along in the outback being "chased" by a pickup truck that was actually trying to warn him that the RH of his bike was on fire , they caught up with him in a petrol station of all places and he finally realised what they were shouting at him Laughing
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PostPosted: 02:07 - 08 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never had any catch fire, but I did have a set of throwovers (which I thought were secure) slip across and get wedged between the chain and the swingarm, locking the back wheel.

Only sheer luck that didn't end in a nasty off.
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PostPosted: 03:18 - 08 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im sure there's a more conventional way to warm up you tyre
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PostPosted: 07:42 - 08 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not my bike, thankfully. I took it from this bloghttps://www.bandin.info/2010/11/como-conducir-una-moto-en-la-brasa.

The guy was at the end of a 500km trip from Vigo to Ourense when he started to feel a bit of heat. He then clocked smoke in his mirrors and turned around to see the bag, that he had attached to the back seat with a bungee net, was on fire with flames and smoke pishing out the back.

It had slipped down and been in contact with the Arrows. Obviously for some time.

While he was at the side of the road the only person who stopped was a Portuguese trucker. There's not the same sense of solidarity with Spanish bikers as there's just so many of them and bikes are just seen as another form of transport rather than a special interest. A bit shit but there you go.

The trucker said that he'd been sounding his horn at him for a couple of minutes but he clearly hadn't heard him.
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 08 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just glad that the fad of high level exhausts on street bikes seems to be coming to a long overdue end.
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 08 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
I'm just glad that the fad of high level exhausts on street bikes seems to be coming to a long overdue end.
Unless you have single sided swing arms in which case, high level exhausts should be compulsory.

The new VFR800 is exhibit A.

https://s27.postimg.org/qzhqbpfvz/23313_VFR800_F_jpg_v_1385996119.jpg
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 08 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

moppy wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
I'm just glad that the fad of high level exhausts on street bikes seems to be coming to a long overdue end.
Unless you have single sided swing arms in which case, high level exhausts should be compulsory.

The new VFR800 is exhibit A.


Absolutely. But it doesn't need to be high level.

They made the RC30 with a single sided swingarm to allow for quick and easy removal of the rear wheel.
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/RC30_RHF_1024.jpg

Then they fitted a similar swingarm to the next generation VFR750 and future 750 and 800 models but PUT THE EXHAUST ON THE WRONG FECKING SIDE!
https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/stinkwheel/IMG_0744.jpg

A low level exhaust is perfectly acceptable on a single side swingarm bike providing it is on the same side as the swingarm.
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 08 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would it not get a bit crowded on the other side though? I can't see that it does on the RC30, but lets return to exhibit A.

https://s30.postimg.org/w4fq1pia5/middle1_4.jpg

This swingarm is a work of art. If I'd made this, I'd want to show it off. But then, the wheel is also gorgeous, so god knows why they put that hideous exhaust in the way.

Meh, I've never lived with high level exhausts so dunno how much of a pain they are.
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 08 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

They can be a stinging pain as I found out last summer after an all dayer.
It was hot so I decided to strip off down to my shorts before putting the bike away in the tight space that is the shed and consequently burnt my leg rather close to the tackle.
I suppose a low level exhaust would have burnt my shin. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 08 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

moppy wrote:

Meh, I've never lived with high level exhausts so dunno how much of a pain they are.


If sufficiently loud, they are a handy pannier rack/hand warmer.
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 08 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
A low level exhaust is perfectly acceptable on a single side swingarm bike providing it is on the same side as the swingarm.


A bit of design jiggery pokery would be required with balancing/centralising the weight surely?
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 08 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob W wrote:
Looks like you need a new rear tyre as well as a new rear end.


I wonder why the bag slipped off the seat?
Judging by the condition of the squared off tyre it looks like that bike is never leaned over much more than on it's side stand. Razz
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