Cossack Voskhod 175 rebuild

[pepperami]

Back on track , If I could weld to that standard I would be very happy.
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[moggie]

The frame is way too heavy to do my usual method of hanging stuff off the garage ceiling or the washing line, so we used a couple of ladders and a plank of wood.

https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3846.jpg

There were so many bits that needed a splash of primer that i just ended up spraying the whole thing.
https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3847.jpg

Fully sprayed, just needed another light going over in some spots later
https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3852.jpg

Repainted the storage boxes too, the masking tape for the voskhod logos made a convenient handle for opening the lids whilst painting.

Done the small front panel in the same cream as the rack. This is the panel that feeds the carb intake from the airbox. There ahouls be a 'n' shaped cover that encases the carb in front of this but its missing.
https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3859.jpg

Painted the side panels too. The masking tape for the Voskhod logos made a convenient handle for opeing the lids whilst painting.
https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3855.jpg

Ive ordered everything we should need for replacing all the cables too. Bought a couple of these universal cable repair kits
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261109541212?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649. I already have plenty of outer sheathing, so with these kits will just need to cut everything to the right lengths and solder on the correct nipples.
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MT-03 | CX500B | Yamaha RS125 | Voskhod 2

[pepperami]

Thread is stalling What`s going on? need more now!
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[Nisp]

yeah!! quit stalin
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Suzuki TS 70 1999 Honda CB 125 t2 1981 Yamaha XJ 600 s Diversion Honda cx 500 MZ ETZ 250 1985 Yamaha FZR 400 1981 Suzuki TS 185 1984

[pepperami]

[Nisp]

https://instantostrich.com/
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Suzuki TS 70 1999 Honda CB 125 t2 1981 Yamaha XJ 600 s Diversion Honda cx 500 MZ ETZ 250 1985 Yamaha FZR 400 1981 Suzuki TS 185 1984

[moggie]

Been doing some more, painted the engine, fork lowers, shocks, handlebars, exhaust and top yoke. Ive got photos but haven't got round to uploading them yet.

In the meantime this is what the 6v alarm batteries look like. We're planning to use two of them in series to provide 12v. These will go where the airbox was and we might try to find a pancake air filter to go straight on the carb.

https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3856.jpg

Also got a new Horn. The old (black one on the left) horn is broken. The new one is a vespa 6v horn which looks nice but unfortunately these things are total crap as a horn. Basically only serves the same purpose as a little bicycle bell, not good enough for modern roads. So we might see about fitting a 'normal' louder horn somewhere hidden and keep this one in the right place on the headlight bowl.

https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3860.jpg


https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3858.jpg
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MT-03 | CX500B | Yamaha RS125 | Voskhod 2

[moggie]

oh yeah, and here's the seat. not a spot of rust one it
The foam is good too but do you think I can salvage the vinyl??? . Planning on sending it off to a place that I've had a new seat from before.

https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3848.jpg


https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3849.jpg
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MT-03 | CX500B | Yamaha RS125 | Voskhod 2

[pepperami]

Oooi! if you think we`ve forgotten about this thread, you`re mistaken
C`mon, what`s going on then? any progress?
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[aceofhearts]

I can recommend this company in Thailand who did my old Puch seat cover:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PUCH-VZ50-SEAT-COVER-ZALL-/180763852451?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a165d7ea3

If you mail them on the link at the bottom of their ebay page they are very helpful. All i had to do was send my old seat cover off to them, they made a new one as an exact match inc. the decals on the back and sent it back all within 2 weeks.

I think all in all it was about £20 for postage and they made the seat for free (so they can keep the pattern and sell on again on ebay)

Great way of getting a new seat cover for a rare bike and the quality was great

[moggie]

Thanks for that aceofhearts.

Done a bit more stripping and painting.

This is the inside of the rear chain enclosure. The drum braking surface is part of the rear sprocket rather than the wheel hub.

https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3903.jpg


Since the original carb is missing its needle, we think we might try this Mikuni carb on it - see what happens:
https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3897.jpg

Gave the engine a painting too
https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3893.jpg
This is the Russian chroming for you. One fork leg has fairly good chrome, the other is totally fucked. Its almost like the master chromer did one leg to show his apprentice how to do it then fucked off to the pub and left the idiot to do the rest.

https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3901.jpg

This is how the throttle works. the bars have a slot cut out of them in which a slide moves up and down. The cable enters the bars further up at the bend. there is a shallow spiral inside of the grip so as you twist the spiral draws the slide out.
https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3899.jpg

Tank is looking rather tasty with the rubbers and badges back on.
https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3894.jpg
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MT-03 | CX500B | Yamaha RS125 | Voskhod 2

[pepperami]

Carbs a carb is a carb! If it works, do it .
I had an old field bike Suzuki ts 250 and I had an Amal carb on that and it worked fine .

Why? have you got a spark plug in a hole in the side casing???, is there something about Russian bikes we in the West dont know .

Keep up the good work!
AND tell us about where you got bits for an Eastern European Bike?, we NEED to KNOW
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[moggie]

[f1fan111]

I will be watching this with interest as this is mine
https://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c170/f1fan111/DSCF23441024x768.jpg

Parts are hard to find, luckly i have sourced a complete headlamp with everything in it, missing the left hand downpipe and lockrings so this is more my longterm project.

While trying to find some info about the bike i did find this website which shows the history https://www.autosoviet.altervista.org/ENGLISH-automotorusse9moto%28Voskhod%29.htm

https://www.minskparts.com/Voskhod%20spare%20parts/Voskhod%20spare%20parts.html has some parts not sure if all fit and never used it yet.

Nice to see another one in orange

[moggie]

Very niice f1fan111

I think I found your Voskhod thread when we first bought ours.

I've seen a couple come up on ebay since, but they've been too far away for me to bid on, otherwise I'd have snapped them up. One was a minty green another dark blue. They def came in some funky colours.

We are thinking of asking to get a replacement lockring made at a local engineering place. I bought a villiers engine lockring to try but although very very similar it just doesn't fit.

Thanks for the parts website, I'm pretty tempted by the K65 carb and the folding kickstart. Other parts look right, but some of them are subtlety different but probably interchangeable (cylinder head for example)
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MT-03 | CX500B | Yamaha RS125 | Voskhod 2

[pepperami]

I cant believe this! there are two of you and you both seem to be sourcing part, albeit with difficulty.
Me, I have a 1976 Jawa 634 350 twin which is a lot more common and I cant find parts for love nor money??? , alright money but silly money.
I`m going to have to use non standard parts on mine, but thats not to much of a big deal.
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[f1fan111]

[blurredman]

[i.p.phrealy]

are you keeping the seat all black, or are you going to have cream piping?
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[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

great thread, ace bike.
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Mobylette Type 50 ---> Raleigh Grifter ---> Neval Minsk 125

[moggie]

This is probably breaking some stupid copyright rules, but since it's from 1974 I think anyone who cares might not notice.

This is a review of the Voskhod 175 from December 1974 edition of Motorcycle Sport Magazine. Got it off ebay for a few quid.

Even though the Voskhod was obviously the bottom end of the market its nice to read a fairly level headed review.

This shows just how many parts are missing from my bike. - Legshields, screen, carb cover, bottom frame panels. Cylinder head, badges and seat are different as well.

Edit: right click and > View image to see the whole jpegs.

https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/MotorcyclesportDec1974-Cover-1.jpg

https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/MotorcyclesportDec1974Voskhod175Page1-1.jpg

https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/MotorcyclesportDec1974Voskhod175Page2-1.jpg

https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/MotorcyclesportDec1974Voskhod175Page3-1.jpg
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MT-03 | CX500B | Yamaha RS125 | Voskhod 2

[moggie]

[chris-red]

If you are anywhere near Essex and need any more of those batteries I have a garage full of them, my dad is a fire-alarm engineer.
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[blurredman]

Please....



Update!





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CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S.
Current: 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (bored to 295cc) - 38k, 1990 MZ ETZ251 - 49k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 9k, 1972 MZ ES250/2 - 17k.

[moggie]

nag nag nag

Slowly getting there.....Stripped and painted the exhausts. This is about 3-4 coats of BBQ paint. Should bake itself nicely once they are on there with the engine running.

https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3933.jpg


Also cleaned up the carb a bit. It was leaking badly when we got it. Should be ok now.
The main problem is the original needle was missing (it still ran fine before we even noticed it was missing). The needle in it here is just one from a Kawasaki KC100 mikuni carb. It doesnt fit well at all, but we'll see how things run and work it our from there.
The carb is stamped K36, the ones available from Minskparts.com are K65's which seem to be the ones fitted to the Voskhod-3 and larger IZH Jupiter &Ural bikes.
https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3912.jpg

Russian Handywork, probably from the removal of casting burrs.
https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3913.jpg

CCCP
https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3915.jpg
https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3916.jpg

The float does indeed float - thats a good sign.
https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3917.jpg

Inside the float bowl. This Carb is about as basic as a carb could be
https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3914.jpg

The 'Fuel Supply Corrector' (choke) was completely blocked, managed to get it clear eventually - it's the jet on the right in this picture. Its controlled by the two piece needle shown in the parts laid out above. The idea apparently is that it's not just a choke for starting, but a sort of boost lever to help you get up hills with a little extra fuel or turn down the fueling when you're cruising. The main jet isnt in there in this picture so the hole looks far bigger than it actually is.
https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3918.jpg

Heres the carb rebuilt, All cleaned up and refitted with gaskets and Hylomar it should be ok now.
https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3919.jpg?t=1356896118
https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3920.jpg?t=1356896104
https://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd216/jascook/Voskhod/IMG_3921.jpg?t=1356896077

More to come. Still got the wheels to strip and paint, new tyres are coming in the post. Need to sort out a new seat cover still as well!
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MT-03 | CX500B | Yamaha RS125 | Voskhod 2