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inchy1981
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 27 Oct 2012    Post subject: Fitting heated grips - which ignition live to use? Reply with quote

As the titles suggests, which wire do you recommend I use, to wire heated grips to?

I dont want to wire it to a permanent live, as it will kill the battery, because I will forget to turn them off!

Could I just spur off from the tail light wire? Therefore the heated grips would only have power whenever I have my lights on (which is always).

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PostPosted: 22:08 - 27 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely.

In fact, I re-fitted my heated grips today and did exactly that. Smile
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 27 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably best to find a slightly beefier wire.

Why not the ignition wires Wink

But no. mine are wired into a relay to the front lights.
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 27 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely use a relay and an inline fuse.

The relay coil spurs off whatever you like, headlight, taillight, dashlight pretty much anything that comes on with ignition. The switched wire on the relay comes via a new direct feed from the battery, through the fuse, relay, heated grips and then to ground.

Much safer and you can use whatever switched supply you like then Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 27 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turkish wrote:
Definitely use a relay and an inline fuse.


Definitely this.

Don't power the heated grips from the tail light (for example), instead use a relay connected to the tail light (for example).
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PostPosted: 04:39 - 28 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't use the ignition wires as these sort of wires should not be tamperfered with. You can introduce unreliabiltyness into an otherwise sound system.

Feed the grips via a Relay. The relay should take main power direct from the main breaker or from a fused supple off the battery. Energise (Switch on or off) the relay using a signal from an 'ignition live' source. Head lamp or tail lamp circuits as suggested. Tail lamp can normally be got at easier than the head lamp wires.
Use a spiral wrap to protect your wiring where there is none. Chaffing can cut through other wires and not just your grip wires.
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PostPosted: 10:22 - 28 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do these oxford grips advertised described below work as well?
I'm wanting hg too, but not sure how to fit to my fazer

Touring Grip Features

Thicker rubber for maximum wear resistance and durability, Rhombus tread patternfor medium wear resistance and maximum vibration absorbtion,52 block siped for high levels of grip and feel, Diamond tread pattern where maximum grip is required, Raised and tactile silcone buttons for use with gloved hands

Standard features of the V8 Switch/Controller unit.


Battery saving mode turns the grips off if you forget (no need to wire through the ignition) !


Saving mode also turns off when idling and the battery voltage drops due to high load.


Designed to fit 22mm handlebars with 120mm to 110mm long original grips.


Battery saving mode can be enabled and disabled as required.


Raised & tactile Silicone buttons for use with gloved hands.


Rainproof switch unit sonically welded for total reliability.


Fits the original OF91 handlebar bracket if upgrading !


Sealed for life one piece controller & switch assembly.


5 Different heat settings for total comfort.


Grips can heat up to 50c.


Draws under 4 amps.
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 28 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just fitted my R&G ones yesterday straight to the battery. It shines a bright red LED infront of me when they are on so i cant see myself forgetting to turn them off.

Its also handy for when im due to go out on the bike, i turn the heated grips on then 10 minutes later start the bike up and the grips are nice and toasty.

P.S I have a Motobatt installed, hence why i can do this Wink
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 28 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

EazyDuz wrote:
I just fitted my R&G ones yesterday straight to the battery. It shines a bright red LED infront of me when they are on so i cant see myself forgetting to turn them off.

Its also handy for when im due to go out on the bike, i turn the heated grips on then 10 minutes later start the bike up and the grips are nice and toasty.

P.S I have a Motobatt installed, hence why i can do this Wink


I wouldn't do this. The chance of leakage through the grips (even though they're off) and the chance of forgetting.

Also the chance of some funny guy turning them on whilst you're not there for a few hours and your battery draining.
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 28 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure what kind of person would inspect my bike enough to see the heated grips switch, and turn them on.
I have a 12v socket connected straight to battery too which hasnt drained any power, i dont think the grips use any power at all if they arent turned on.

I'll go by the 1 strike policy, if i forget to turn them off even once, and come back to a flat batt, ill wire them up with a relay, until that happens ill chance it with the battery connection.
I have breakdown cover anyway, and a motobatt, im pretty sure a motobatt could run heated grips for a very long time before running out of juice.
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 28 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Another vote for using a fuse and a relay. I tend to use the feed wire for the rar brake light switch to trigger the relay.

EazyDuz wrote:
I just fitted my R&G ones yesterday straight to the battery. It shines a bright red LED infront of me when they are on so i cant see myself forgetting to turn them off.


I can!

All the best

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PostPosted: 15:06 - 28 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

EazyDuz wrote:
Not sure what kind of person would inspect my bike enough to see the heated grips switch, and turn them on.
I have a 12v socket connected straight to battery too which hasnt drained any power, i dont think the grips use any power at all if they arent turned on.


Practical joker friends?

As for the socket, that's because whilst there's no device connected there is a break in the circuit. People have had it happen before where heated grips have drained the battery whilst they're off.

EazyDuz wrote:
I'll go by the 1 strike policy, if i forget to turn them off even once, and come back to a flat batt, ill wire them up with a relay, until that happens ill chance it with the battery connection.
I have breakdown cover anyway, and a motobatt, im pretty sure a motobatt could run heated grips for a very long time before running out of juice.


Fair enough, but for the sakes of 15 minutes and a couple of quid, I'd rather not have that happen to me. It's a horrible feeling coming out to your bike 160 miles from home and it having a flat battery. Sad
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 28 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

How big are the relays? I ride a cruiser so theres barely anything in terms of fairings to hide electricals behind, infact most of the electricals are right next to the sub fuel tank, genius design.
I hate the idea of tapping into existing wiring as well.
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 28 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

EazyDuz wrote:
How big are the relays? I ride a cruiser so theres barely anything in terms of fairings to hide electricals behind, infact most of the electricals are right next to the sub fuel tank, genius design.
I hate the idea of tapping into existing wiring as well.


Not too big, I have very limited space on my GS500 too.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-Pin-12v-30A-AUTOMOTIVE-RELAY-For-Aux-Lights-Horns-etc-Car-Boat-Van-Motorbike-/290784783352?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43b41fabf8

Dimensions:
W = 27mm D = 30mm H = 40mm (inc mounting bracket) / 52mm (inc bracket and pins)

You only have to splice in to 1 existing wire on your bike. Smile
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 28 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If i find the grips are draining my batt or if i leave them on just once then ill wire it to a relay
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 28 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Likely space behind a side panel to hide a relay.

If you use the rear brake light switch, then a replacement switch likely comes with a short bit of wiring to plug into the loom. Hence if you tap into that and make a real mess of it you can just replace the cheap rear brake light switch.

Leave the grips on over night and you probably will flatten the battery enough that it will be damaged.

All the best

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PostPosted: 23:19 - 28 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stinkwheel's guide to fitting a relay from a switched live
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 28 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just fitted R&G grips too and like EazyDuz wired them straight to the battery. If I ever get a problem I will find a connection via the ignition. The led's glow nicely to tell me they are on, I will disconnect in the warmer seasons. I rarely leave my bike longer than a few minutes and it is parked next to my other bike in the garage with jump leads nearby. Everyone says you must go with an ignition feed - maybe but I'm ok at the moment.
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PostPosted: 04:20 - 29 Oct 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

biker7 wrote:
Everyone says you must go with an ignition feed - maybe but I'm ok at the moment.


What? No thought for the kittens?

You heartless bastart.
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