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killerbee76
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 13 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got the frame back from the sand blasters, very clean, no drama. Had the head done and it's perfect. So happy days! Mr. Green
The black tape is just protection on the mating surface and also the frame number. You can just see some media in the spark plug hole. There's a few bits of red i can still see that i'll do by hand before giving it in for painting.

My next issue is that the rear section doesn't line up as well as i'd like, so i'm thinking of spotwelding it to get the lines perfect but still have some domed nuts to keep it looking like 2 parts. Any thoughts? I think the overall finish may look better this way.

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PostPosted: 23:20 - 13 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice, paint or powder coating the whole thing??
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PostPosted: 00:35 - 14 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

killerbee76 wrote:

My next issue is that the rear section doesn't line up as well as i'd like, so i'm thinking of spotwelding it to get the lines perfect but still have some domed nuts to keep it looking like 2 parts. Any thoughts? I think the overall finish may look better this way.




I suspect you'll find it extremely difficult to fit/remove the rear wheel, if you make the mudguard a permanent fit.

Think of it logically; looking at the construction of the rest of the frame, why would they make the mudguard detachable, if it didn't need to be?
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PostPosted: 07:34 - 14 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaft wrote:
killerbee76 wrote:

My next issue is that the rear section doesn't line up as well as i'd like, so i'm thinking of spotwelding it to get the lines perfect but still have some domed nuts to keep it looking like 2 parts. Any thoughts? I think the overall finish may look better this way.




I suspect you'll find it extremely difficult to fit/remove the rear wheel, if you make the mudguard a permanent fit.

Think of it logically; looking at the construction of the rest of the frame, why would they make the mudguard detachable, if it didn't need to be?


Looking at the state of mine i was thinking to repair crash damage from people dropping them? Else you'd need a panel beater or new frame... I tend to agree with you I'm just hoping I can figure a way around it to get the line up perfect. So I'll need to mount the swing arm and rear shocks and do a dry run to be sure of that method, what other options would there by, i like the idea of things you can't see from the outside. That swing arm fits further to the right than in my mock up so I'll try tonight and add pics.

With regards to adding some colour I'm a bit stuck, I'm thinking of powdercoating all the bits you see in a dusty matte blue, I just need to raid some old suzuki paint charts to see if they did shade that's close, don't mind if it's not from the B-series bikes but would be fun to try match it up. Then all the add on bits will be black for stands, pegs, dark royal blue for shocks, seat base, some of the metal parts that need love. I'm not sure on the side panel colour yet, but old english white or the royal blue to match. Those are being done last thought and i have a spare oil tank so i may just get the blue one done with the other bits and spray the OEW myself from some tins to get an idea? Photoshop may come in handy too!
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 23 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been working a lot recently and might be doing weekends aswell for the near future so this may slow down even more!

I decided to secure the rear arch after test fitting the rear wheel with it in place, it had plenty of space so i'll give it a go. Because the frame is bare metal it's living under a blanket in the lounge to avoid any flash rust but i put weld through primer on the areas that will be welded hopefully this weekend. Once the arch is solid it's off to be painted or coated, i'm still torn which way i want to go, I've possibly won a new tank for it so that may change my plans.

As soon as my mates little powdercoating business is open i'll be dropping all the bolt on bits down there to get the stands ready for the frame. So slow progress but hopefully by Sunday evening the frame will be ready for colour.
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 03 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So... after some manic work recently i've made progress. New petrol tank off ebay, blokes had it in the garage, boxed!!!! Top bloke and he has a few more so if you need a b120 tank let me know and i'll pm you his ebay user name.

In other news the frame got dropped off yesterday at my mates unit in Newbury, bit of a mission as the journey was a bit crazy but progress on that horrid rear section that you'll see below.
Helps when you have mates that skilled! So next is some colour and meanwhile the motor is getting a deep clean this weekend and then any worn bits swapped out. The idea being to have the frame painted, with the motor installed within a week or two, and then it may slow down as work commitments use my free time till christmas Sad

Sorry for the slow progress but i promise the frame should be worth it Smile

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PostPosted: 11:52 - 03 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Folded arms Stop going to work and give us more restoration Tut Tut

You`re letting earning a living spoil our enjoyment Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 03 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
Folded arms Stop going to work and give us more restoration Tut Tut

You`re letting earning a living spoil our enjoyment Laughing


haha i'm with you on that one. I'm hoping to spend some time on the motor today though so with luck i may even update tonight... but only if you all behave.

[edit: didn't think it was worth another post just to say i spent two hours with cotton buds and white spirits starting my deep clean of the motor.... i'll do a few hours each night until its spotless.]
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PostPosted: 08:53 - 05 Nov 2013    Post subject: speeedo Reply with quote

hi
i have a brand new speedo for this bike let me know if you are interested
shocks and kick start too
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 06 Nov 2013    Post subject: Re: speeedo Reply with quote

hybrid350lc wrote:
hi
i have a brand new speedo for this bike let me know if you are interested
shocks and kick start too


pm sent.

Update on bike: The new tank is now bare which made my mate well up a little to take of fresh paint, but the finish is as you'd expect, perfect. Plus the old tank i've given to him to practice on and so it may come back as a restored tank to ebay one day and feed that spares market Thumbs Up

I don't know if i'm going to see the bike this weekend or next but i will have loom and motor updates either way... i keep putting off the rewiring job but i think i just need to get it done now.
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 06 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You stripped the paint off a NOS tank?
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 06 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

garth wrote:
You stripped the paint off a NOS tank?


Yup it needs to be blue, i did consider changing my whole plan and going with the stock red but it's a 2 coat process and there's no way i'd match the 35 year old tank paint to fresh stuff across the whole frame.
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 14 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So.... this hasn't become another box or bits in a non bikers shed so don't worry. Picked the bike up this week after my mate had done some magic on it. Plenty of pics to follow. Good news, I love the colour, it's got the perfect period shade of blue i wanted, and should look good with quite a bold white on the side panels and probably some standard graphics also in white, might need them made as i believe they were all silver from the factory... add to list of things to check. Rolling Eyes
I've also had the head cleaned down and powdercoated, but now i'm not convinced i want the engine painted, or if it would look better with just a very deep clean and a polish. anyway i'm babbling, the NOS fuel tank is just beautiful and the pics don't do it justice, i can't wait to get building this in the new year. It's just a shame the dvla need me to present the vehicle and it looks like this.... Smile
Anyway happy hols to everyone and hopefully 2014 will see this putput smoking around the local roads again. pics very shortly.
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 14 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mr. Green Note the welded in rear section, some frame straightening to repair damage, and a few less holes. I can take no credit, my mate did a beautiful job imo.
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 18 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

looking awesome Very Happy
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 30 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey bud, i picked up a haynes manual for the b120 the other day for 50p do you want it??
ill just take a scan of the wiring diagram, and send it to ya if you havnt got one already
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 13 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi, sorry life went a bit mental. if you still have the manual let me know via pm and we'll arrange something Smile

to everyone else. I promise this won't end up on ebay as "unfinished project". It should start going back together soon, and i hope to have it finished in time for some SUN this summer.
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 14 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

killerbee76 wrote:
Made us a promise!.


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PostPosted: 23:27 - 14 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

right question. when it comes to nuts and bolts what do people tend to do? get them replated or try replace them? The long bolts that hold the engine in are quite tatty so i'm considering options. I've seen people zinc plate them at home, anyone tried that?

I'll upload some progress Sunday.
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 15 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many options here.

You can either replace them with new bolts in a variety of finishes, black, stainless, chrome plate, zinc plate, zinc colour, anodised colour.

Or you can just send the bolts you have to a company that does plating and get them re done in zinc, people on here report the cost of this isnt huge and on most bikes it keeps the original factory look.

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PostPosted: 18:25 - 15 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

like the colour....but looks a bit flat
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 16 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

bezzabsa wrote:
like the colour....but looks a bit flat


Yes i've noticed that. I put some car wax on it and it looks a bit deeper now but the finish on the frame is uneven. I think that i'll rebuild it in the blue as it is now to make sure it's all rust free and runs nicely and then think about a respray in future.


I think i might look into getting the bolts replated then, i don't mind some cost around this as i'm sure its going to cost a lot more to buy decent replacements?

Cheers guys.
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 02 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything more ever happen with this.
I just bought one for the Mrs birthday in a few weeks.
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PostPosted: 07:48 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys, new here. I also just bought one for my wife. What happened to this build, did he ever finish?
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 02 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

dunno, he hasnt posted in over a year.

but my mrs likes her new one
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she was pretty pissed when i sold my blue one in nz
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let me know if you want to know anything, my blue one got a full rebuild,

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