RF Safe-Stop lethal to motorcyclists?

_Iain_ · Banned Joined: 01 Feb 2012 Karma :

Came across this on faceache....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25197786

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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

I also found it on BCF Wink

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https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=282177&highlight=

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Suntan Sid · World Chat Champion Joined: 07 May 2009 Karma :

There are so many potential problems with ever using one on a public road, it will never see the light of day!
It's a compo claim waiting to happen!
It's claimed they could be used in a "chase" situation.
It's highly unlikely the device could be mounted in a motorised vehicle for obvious reasons, which means a static location.

If the device can't be mounted in vehicle, then at, realistic, chase speeds, (say 70 to 100mph+), and given the fact that the range is 50m, surely the vehicle being chased would just disengage the clutch when it's within the 50m "ray gun" zone, freewheel through the "death ray" then bump it back into life, once out of range, and carry on in the lead!

If the device could be mounted in a vehicle, then surely if the vehicle being chased had the same sheilding as the pursuer, (preventing self destruction), then the technology is useless!
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Matt B · World Chat Champion Joined: 01 May 2012 Karma :

As mentioned in the other thread - the thing itself is massive and hardly portable. Looks to be about 4 feet tall and 10 feet long! Needs an Ikea wooden trestle just to hold up its comedy nose cone.

Never going to see the light of day in that form as a viable method of stopping anything.

https://www.e2v.com/e2v/assets/Image/RF%20Safe-Stop/letter%20box%20trial%20set%20up.jpg
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Wonko The Sane · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 Jan 2013 Karma :

anyone pointed out the lack of steering due to the power assisted steering stopping when the engine cuts?
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Derivative · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 Aug 2010 Karma :

Why focus specifically on bikes?

It's not clear that killing a modern car's electronic systems from 70mph will be in any way safe, either.

Their 'test' was at 15mph.

Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

Discussed elsewhere. It's a HERF gun, you can find how-tos on the intardtubes if you want to make your own from a microwave, and a heck of a lot smaller than that beast.

No half sane Chief Cunstable would buy one, unless his brother-in-law was selling it, or they offer a hefty discount to the police retirement fund.
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I see the value of my 1980 Honda XL with it's neanderthal electrics going up in the near future..

Jim Mc · Nearly there... Joined: 28 Dec 2010 Karma :

Couldn't you just shield your ECU from the RF? I don't get how this works actually because most car ECUs are shielded? Maybe they've started putting ecus into plastic boxes, but certainly on Meganes/Clios/Puntos and Daewoos they've all been inside of a metal faraday shroud.

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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

I suspect the sort of people going to that sort of trouble to protect against eventualities also aren't likely to be the sort being caught by the police Smile

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If the police did end up with a system like this, I'd expect it'd be used to stop joy-riders, ram raiders and the like.

Skudd · Super Spammer Joined: 01 Oct 2006 Karma :

Just like road spikes, it will be used in limited situation and have a limited affect. Just another tool in the box to use.
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Can't work out why people are moaning about this. Currently the alternative is bursting your tyres with fucking spikes. Laughing

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