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Emo Kiddy



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PostPosted: 20:13 - 27 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Built up the rad mounts with some fiberglass to smooth them out a bit, as my metal fabricating skills aren't the prettiest.

Trial fitted rads, need some better sized washers, and probably some rubber grommets for them too.

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And then stuck some of the plastics on.
Will hopefully have the bits to get it rolling at the weekend, engine in etc.

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PostPosted: 22:52 - 28 Nov 2014    Post subject: off topic Reply with quote

Sorry off topic...But how do you add images within a post instead of an attachment?
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PostPosted: 00:14 - 29 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol...


These are hosted on my facebook, but you can host them anywhere (photobucket etc).

Right click the image, copy the location.

Then you need to type:

[img]

Then paste the location of the photo immediately after.

And then type:

[/img]

So it'll look like:

[img]www.urlofphoto.com[/img]
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PostPosted: 01:59 - 29 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers mate. Didn't realise they had to be hosted.

Some forums just let you drag or input them from your own PC.
Suppose they need the space on their servers.

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PostPosted: 18:15 - 30 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spent a couple of hours yesterday bolting all my parts together.
Some spacers and adapters are needed for things like rear engine mount, front and rear axle spacers, swing arm spacers etc, so will measure what needs making and get on that in the next week or so I guess.

Pretty happy with geometry and look to be fair. Plenty of room for airfilter/airbox under the seat.

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PostPosted: 19:11 - 30 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow!...Beautiful mate
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 30 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking brill Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 30 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

White wheels look really smart.
Seriously good effort OP, you've really pushed on with this. Likely to be the highest quality pit bike that's ever existed, I'd have thought.
Can't wait to hear how it performs with all its got going for it!
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 05 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing really exciting. Wrapped my new fork guards in white carbon vinyl and whacked a couple of Showa stickers on to match the Showa shock. (Fhowa forks huh Laughing )

Got a black fender on the way to keep with the RS125 rep theme, not gonna bother with the front hugger. Going for the SuperMoto style.


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PostPosted: 02:25 - 08 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those fork guards make your front wheel look much smaller (obviously it isn't) lol
P.s awesome looking bike Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 08 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Decided to bang the hugger on the front. Couple of holes stuffed through the fork guards, and it's tied on nicely. Might tart it up with a couple of lines of Fiberglass and some black paint if I can be bothered.

I'm feeling an oval headlamp mounted just under the front number board, between the fork legs.

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PostPosted: 14:09 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worked out the gearing. Assuming an RS125 does 95mph. This supermoto should in theory do 19% less speed, so around 76mph. Should be fun! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fook me if that things geared to red line at 76mph it's going to be a bit mental I'd think?

I have no experience of pit bike gearing, but if the std gearing on my KMX is good for 80mph, about 84mph with the new taller tyres, with a 24bhp engine, then would the Pit bike not pull at least the same if not more?
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 10 Dec 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A smaller rear sprocket would cause clearance issues with the chain and swing arm anyway I think. And I think having more torque is better as it's going to be used for track mainly. Should be a little wheelie monster though. Aha.
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 07 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put together an ally bracket for the caliper. Got pads fitted. Gotta source a nice M/C to power it now. Smile

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PostPosted: 05:24 - 09 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is your front wheel spindle long enough?
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PostPosted: 07:26 - 09 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol! I was waiting for someone to notice.
short answer, no.
But my forks have 4 pimch bolts in them so even without the nut the spindle can't go anywhere.
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 10 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice machine pal, If I had my own garage I'd be tempted to start a decent project.

Keep up the good work.
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 11 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Time is the biggest killer at the moment. Just don't have enough of it.
I will be aiming to have this finished for the summer so I can use it on the road, and take it to some supermoto days with the PBC lot.
Need to buy parts, and get it running. It's pretty close to being a functional bike now.
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 11 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me know when you're doing a track day on it. I've never ridden any of the tracks in the Midlands etc, but I'd be interested in doing so.
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 12 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once it's running and reliable, I will be riding it at Whilton, Stretton, Caxton and Red Lodge on a monthly/6-weekly basis I hope. I miss the days of doing 12-15 track days a year! Sad

First stop on this beast will be Whilton Mill though. Nice big straight will let is stretch it's legs and pull in some 70mph action I hope.
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 13 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

binge wrote:
Once it's running and reliable, I will be riding it at Whilton, Stretton, Caxton and Red Lodge on a monthly/6-weekly basis I hope. I miss the days of doing 12-15 track days a year! Sad

First stop on this beast will be Whilton Mill though. Nice big straight will let is stretch it's legs and pull in some 70mph action I hope.


Must say shes a beauty! got a nackered bike sortof like that one but engine is wankered and need a new frame :/ Project time Very Happy Could you point me in the direction of a rotax 123 engine looking for a engine to go in a bike Smile or any other good engines


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PostPosted: 21:18 - 13 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The R123 is getting rare now as it's from the early RS125, and the late AF1 IIRC (Kickstart will correct me on that I am sure).

Rotax 122 would be a better choice. I picked mine up on Ebay.
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 13 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

binge wrote:
The R123 is getting rare now as it's from the early RS125, and the late AF1 IIRC (Kickstart will correct me on that I am sure).

Rotax 122 would be a better choice. I picked mine up on Ebay.

Cool thanks any other good 125cc 2T engines? for tuning/reliable?
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 13 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

My last 2t pit was built with a TZR125 (same as DTR125) engine.
I've got friends who have grafted NSR125 engines into pits, and also seen a Suzuki RG125 engine put into one as well.
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