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Posted: 17:25 - 05 Feb 2014 Post subject: |
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wotsthestory wrote: | I haven't got this going yet |
Precisely - Worry about performance tuning after you've learned to ride the thing! In all honesty through the woods I never hit 3rd gear on the 144EXC, and never held full throttle other than when I was trying to do 2nd gear rolling burnouts whilst overtaking J.M on the Beta - Covering freinds in mud is always funny. KTM's are good at it, Trials bikes aren't!
With this you have the bonus of being able to ride it for thousands of trouble free miles, you can commute on it on the Monday, and spend Sunday exploring the byways! Much better IMO. You could always downgear it to make it a bit more snappy if required, but I'm sure you'll be pleasantly suprised.
However, I'd be inclined to not fit a bigger more powerful front brake. When you start offroad riding your instinct is to grab for it - when you grab a handful of front brake you fall off. It also makes it ballache remembering what brake pads, seals etc you need and you've got to fabricate a caliper bracket! If it's purely down to the condition they're in, post them to me & I'll get the piston extracters on them & tear the calipers down for you. Stuck calipers are made a lot easier when you've got the right tools & Mechanics can always be bribed with biscuits
Also, confirmed that a 2002 DT125R (3RMM) cross referances nicely against an '86 LC2 single pot caliper with regards to the piston/seal kit.
Theoreticly, this will fit -
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-DT-125-R-2002-0125-CC-Front-Right-Hand-Full-Caliper-Piston-Kit-/390566253765?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item5aef9014c5
OEM Yamaha number is 34X-W0057-00 and priced at nearly double that.
Interestingly enough, further research shows an identical part number.
34X-2580T-00 is the complete caliper for both a 1986 DT125LC (twin pot caliper fitted in '87) and the 2002 DT125R.
As it goes, '95-'02 DT125R's were fitted with the same front caliper as the '86. The part numbers are identical. Might go back a bit further than '95, PM me if you want me to check a specific year - but they will fit.
To me it looks like they tried to 'Upgrade' to a twin pot caliper, found it was a pain in the backside and then switched back to the good old single piston that'd been tried and tested! This would make your upgrade into more of a downgrade - assuming it'll fit the forks! ____________________ Please be aware that the above post may be full of complete nonsense.
Riding: '07 KTM Duke II, Baotian BT49QT-20 Driving: '88 Volvo 340
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Brembo is from a later DT, so parts are easy to source. In all honesty the existing caliper is toast as was the master cylinder, I have a replacement single pot already but things looked different on the newer forks. I essentially have a full front end in spares, so I may need to change things around anyway. This weekend I'll be rebuilding the front end as I've got everything for that, including new All Balls bearings for the Yoke. Seals for the forks and various other bits. I also need to assess the various other bearings throughout. Wheel bearings will probably get done anyway, but I need to check the swing arm. ____________________ Currently: Yamaha DT 125 LC2,Repsol Fireblade, and Bumblebee MSX 125 |
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Bit of an update, forgot the pics today. Was about to paint the yokes, then realised the ones on it were different to the other ones I'd been given. Also the newer forks were thicker too. I checked the wheel which I was going to use and the setup seems slightly different. Also, the good spare caliper bolted straight onto the newer forks. So I've temporarily assembled that front end and it goes together nicely. So I'll use that. Spare clutch arrived, it is the same but has one more plate and is slightly deeper, rear is identical, as Iain has said it was clearly uprated. If it doesn't foul the case it should be fine, remains to be seen though.
Tonight, I'm going through the wiring, as I think I have enough bits to make everything work with a bit of splicing.
Tomorrow, when I've done the ER6 wheel bearings, I'm going to trial fit everything for a rolling chassis so I know which bits to paint. ____________________ Currently: Yamaha DT 125 LC2,Repsol Fireblade, and Bumblebee MSX 125 |
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More shiny stuff arrived, started stripping the frame but the ER6 got on the way of proper progress.https://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t525/wotsthestory/Bike/BC07426A-E52E-4773-BE7A-39FB1E1B00A1_zpsaspqbig2.jpg~original ____________________ Currently: Yamaha DT 125 LC2,Repsol Fireblade, and Bumblebee MSX 125 |
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I hope you find a way to get the DTR powervalve set up working on your DTLC motor, as it's the only way to go IMO!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-dERtGFIR4
This is a vid of a KMX125 showing the powervalve system operating as you would expect during riding, and it also shows why there is no way you can operate a PV manually and make it work like it should. |
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Minor update, started the painting. Hammerite Smooth Red is near identical to the colour on it. Here is the first coat, did throw it at it a bit. Left it an hour or so and then attacked it with a pan scourer to get the drips off. Will apply a smoother coat in the next few days.https://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t525/wotsthestory/Bike/FC3CD967-0B93-4EB3-94DD-F65F08406BCE_zpsieispzcf.jpg~original
Brembo caliper is totally off, to be expected. I'll decide what to do when it's back together. Would love to have a rolling chassis next weekend, but the weather recently would suggest this is unlikely to happen ____________________ Currently: Yamaha DT 125 LC2,Repsol Fireblade, and Bumblebee MSX 125 |
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Very minor update, been working on my two other bikes, so this has been delayed. It's got a few bits back on it. But the V5 arrived today, one owner (the guy I got it from) and first registered 01/07/88. Pretty chuffed. ____________________ Currently: Yamaha DT 125 LC2,Repsol Fireblade, and Bumblebee MSX 125 |
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Nice project, I have a soft spot for the older 2 strokes....happy times ____________________ This restoration is ruining my bank balance! Restoration project - 1991 Aprilia AF1 Replica
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This bike, what has happened to it? ____________________ Please be aware that the above post may be full of complete nonsense.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 268 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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