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Posted: 19:57 - 01 May 2014 Post subject: |
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Last week I took the ER for it's MOT but due to the fucking oil leak it failed as it's suddenly got worse from me trying to tighten up the clutch casing thus making me believe more that it may be coming from there, at this present moment, I've no fucking clue.
Since my last written update I stated that I'd write up on the fuel tap repair but I'll have to use the parts list pics to show you how I did it etc so I'll do it soon.
I changed the headstock bearings on the bike and fuck me what a PITA!!! Doing this on a faired bike is a lot easier let me tell you! Will do a write up on that when I have time. Shocks are here, they're good, plastics turned up for the rear cowl, good too, fork seals, good, front wheel bearings are here as they're fucked, and i have a clutch gasket, just need some instant gasket for 2 spots per manual stating such.
Just waiting on the below to put a few things right.
To do list
Power wash
Fit the new speedo drive (thanks PhilDawson8270)
Ring about a rear tyre & replace
Fix the oil leak - FAILED MOT
Fit exhaust hanger
Replace rethals (bent)
Fit/Remove mirrors
Replace Lockset (faulty Ignition)
Replace clutch switch (faulty)
Fix/Replace Fuel tap
Fit new headstock bearings
General service
Service rear brake (won't return and pulsing)
Service front brake
Replace chain
Adjust clutch cable freeplay
Clean and lube all moving parts (cables, pegs, throttle etc)
Synchronize the Carbs
Service the engine (oil & filter + air filter thanks again PhilDawson8270)
Service forks (going over bumps, breaks wrists)
Replace Shocks {ON THE WAY}
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1. Turn up at Jay's house for a fucking race at dawn.
2. After said race, time to fulfil a bet you lost some years ago... remember that?
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Posted: 01:50 - 05 May 2014 Post subject: |
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R1 Jay wrote: | TUG wrote: |
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1. Turn up at Jay's house for a fucking race at dawn.
2. After said race, time to fulfil a bet you lost some years ago... remember that?
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Yes I do and I was thinking about it the other day I was actually going to bring it up with you ____________________ Haz ER-5, innit! |
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Posted: 00:31 - 16 May 2014 Post subject: |
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I promised some pics about 2 weeks ago, since then Uni work has taken over and left me bikeless not to mention it won't pass an MOT with the oil leak. So the deal with the petrol tap which was leaking was a simple affair so I'll start with that.
Basically who ever repaired it before me didn't notice the leak wasn't coming from the diaphragm at all, but instead was the O-ring pictured here.
https://designingben.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/fuel-tap-fix.jpg
The diaphragm (pictured here in red) was coated in instant gasket or silicone sealant, and very sloppy too, so it actually caused more of an issue than a fix. The Fuel tap comes apart really easily but the hard part is not getting pissed on by the tank full of fuel, you can turn the tap to "ON" which then uses the port connected to the diaphragm but I undid the main pipe by accident and scrambled to find the nearest container possible. If I was you I'd buy one of these to stop the flow of petrol, you don't need to remove the tap body if it leaks from the tap itself (thing you turn) you just unscrew the 2 cross heads and pull it out, replace the O-ring (pictured circled in Cyan) and jobs done.
So to recap:
1. Undo the 2 10mm bolts
2. Clamp the fuel line/s
3. Remove the 2 cross head screws on the face
4. Pull out tap
5. Replace O-Ring with a bigger one or double up like I did
6. Reverse to reassemble
A WORD OF WARNING: These are utter shit! The only part that worked for me was the O-ring and every other part was incompatible.
To do list
Fix the oil leak - Awaiting gaskets
Replace rethals (bent) {£30}
Fit/Remove mirrors
Replace Lockset (faulty Ignition)
Replace clutch switch (faulty){£8}
General service
Clean and lube all moving parts (cables, pegs, throttle etc)
Synchronize the Carbs
Service the engine {Waiting for water pump seals}
Service forks (going over bumps, breaks wrists)
Replace Shocks {here}
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Posted: 01:10 - 16 May 2014 Post subject: |
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That would be slam, as you can tell, I never really fixed much on it |
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Posted: 01:33 - 16 May 2014 Post subject: |
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Headstock bearing time!
After completing a few odd jobs on the bike the headstock bearings turned up and it was time to sort them out, well, duh right?
Anyway, I rolled the bike out the garage as the weather was good and I wanted better lighting to see what I was doing however, I was met with this...
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Leading to...
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It's pissing me off more than you can believe this oil leak. Anyway, as you can tell from those lovely images it was nice and bright, warm too! I got the jack out the garage and my tools and started to undo bolts that later wouldn't be wise to crack when the bike was lifted. So spindle clamp on the lower fork leg, brake bolts, spindle nut, yoke nuts, steering stem nut etc, you get the picture, just basically all the hard bolts to get with a bike balancing.
Once done, I took off the bars and other doo-dads like the throttle assembly and brake perch. Make sure you unclip your brake light sensor/switch, can be a pain if you forget. I marked the clamp position with masking tape just for ease really.
https://designingben.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/20140428_100148.jpg
Next up was the brake line clamps and the actual brake itself. Take note of the routing as I fell foul of this when rebuilding the front end later on.
https://designingben.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/20140428_100553.jpg
Next up was removing the headlight and its bowl to get at the wiring to move it out the way as the fork yoke bolts are hidden back there. You have to unscrew the assembley from the bowl via 2 cross heads then undo the bolts with the nut behind the headlight, otherwise it will just spin and you won't get far.
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Time to undo the speedo to remove the clocks and so on.
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Undoing all the clamps holding the brake line in place etc.
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So that I can do this.
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Jacked the bike up to get the front wheel out and undo the mudguard, I was actually pretty scared that they would just get chewed up given the state of the rest of the bike. Thankfully after a good whack with my truck punches and mallet they came out with no issue.
https://designingben.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/20140428_104914.jpg
Quick tip!: Squirt WD-40 around where the clamp holds the fork leg, turn it a little and it will lube itself up helping you out greatly, which in turn will leave you with this.
https://designingben.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/20140428_110123.jpg
Ok so here is the deal with bearings, the best way to remove them is tap it out in a circular motion, it will take you some time but it won't result in damaging the metal around it. As mentioned previously, I own These and honestly, they are life savers. You can lube up the frame neck to aid you but tbh they're so tight just tapping with the punches is enough. JUST BE PATIENT.
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I think they where a bit FUBAR to be honest, the pictures don't show it but the surfaces had been pretty beat up, the lube had all dried up too so I replaced them with these, a set of taper bearings.
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The top bearing was pretty easy to put in place, you can use the old bearing races to GENTLY tap in the new bearing races, DON'T HIT THE NEW BEARING FACES OR USE THE BEARINGS THEMSELVES TO HIT THE NEW RACES INTO PLACE.
https://designingben.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/20140428_115412.jpg
Top done, I tap the lower ones in but the ER5 has a pretty big recess, I thought I'd been given the wrong bearings at first but I hadn't was just me herp derping. You can actually see it here.
https://designingben.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/20140428_115419.jpg
I struggled a bit with the lower yoke bearing and race not going down enough on the neck to let me get the nut on the stem, no problem though, you just need to use the old race upside down so the thin part hits the race and not your bearing and because your hitting your race, eventually it will sit right, but again be patient with it, don't just smack the shit out of it. Tap in a circular motion again and it will be reet.
https://designingben.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/20140428_115429.jpg
If you've done it right then you should be able to slide it up and screw the notched ring onto the stem, the correct way to tighten up said ring is to hand tighten it then tap it or use a c-ring spanner to turn it another 1/4 turn then back it off ever so slightly. If you read your bike's workshop manual it will give you the correct way to do it. When I was younger, I though you just clamped that shit down but nope Doesn't work like that.
Given your lockstops aren't damaged you can turn both clamps to the side and tighten everything up but you can always leave it till last and put the forks, mudguard, and wheel back on to ensure the wheel will be true. If you have difficulties there might be a chance that your yoke is bent making your steering turn on its own. What I mean by this, the bars pulling to one side as you set off, they're correcting themselves you see. Anyway, rebuild and be merry, Good job mate! ____________________ Haz ER-5, innit! |
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I have 3 ER-5's being broken up for parts at the moment. Inbox me if you're after anything! One got rear ended, one had an engine knock & the others only about 50% there, however is red.
Keep the drum setup - our ER-5 loaners have had the skim done once. Most of them are on 60-70k so the one skim is likely to outlast the rest of the bike ____________________ Please be aware that the above post may be full of complete nonsense.
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Posted: 17:10 - 16 May 2014 Post subject: |
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£50-80 for a wheel, caliper, brake disc, master cylinder, brake line, pads, fluid & the bracketry to be welded to the swinger/support the m/c? Are you sure
Unsure what we paid but I cant help thinking £20-30 as a local guy did em, however https://www.srmclassicbikes.com/wheels/brakes - are quoting £47.84 ____________________ Please be aware that the above post may be full of complete nonsense.
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_Iain_ wrote: | £50-80 for a wheel, caliper, brake disc, master cylinder, brake line, pads, fluid & the bracketry to be welded to the swinger/support the m/c? Are you sure
Unsure what we paid but I cant help thinking £20-30 as a local guy did em, however https://www.srmclassicbikes.com/wheels/brakes - are quoting £47.84 |
If you hunt around on ebay etc, you can get parts dirt cheap, the most expensive things I've had to purchase are gaskets and shit.
Can get the rear wheel with the sprocket and disc for £20-£35 I've seen. ____________________ Haz ER-5, innit! |
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_Iain_ wrote: | £50-80 for a wheel, caliper, brake disc, master cylinder, brake line, pads, fluid & the bracketry to be welded to the swinger/support the m/c? Are you sure
Unsure what we paid but I cant help thinking £20-30 as a local guy did em, however https://www.srmclassicbikes.com/wheels/brakes - are quoting £47.84 |
After you mentioned this to me, I've done a little digging around.
Both the ER and the 1995-ish GPZ500 use the same spindles, bearings, cush drive, sprocket hub and spacers bar the caliper bracket side for obvious reasons. The footrest bracket is ally so will need it TIG welded for 2 mounts for my rear brake pedal, and then I was thinking a P-clamp behind the side cover for the Res would be a decent placement.
I would probably need to change the lengths on the Res and the brake line, I would also need to have a brake line clamp/holder put onto the swing arm with the slide for the caliper bracket. ____________________ Haz ER-5, innit! |
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Someone on the er5 forum said they used the er's brake pedal.
ive not looked at converting mine yet as i have a garage to build, an aprilia to put back together and a few other things but i will get around to it as my rear brake proper oval and i dont think will pass the mot again lol |
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Well today has been utter shit but I had a little success in the way of recieving the gaskets to add to my pile of parts!
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All I need to do now is find time to fit them, probably next week... but more than likely won't get to. I've got myself the complete rear brake system from a GPZ500 and I have a rear wheel with disc on hold as he searches for the spacer that sits between the caliper bracket and the wheel itself. ____________________ Haz ER-5, innit! |
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Today was a good day!
Got a rear wheel from a GPZ500 including the disc, spacer and caliper mount for £28 and my rear brake set up (caliper, bracket, line, pedal, res, m/c) I bought for £16 is on it's way so that's £44 excluding pads and welding to the rear of the footrest mount and a slide on the swing arm. ____________________ Haz ER-5, innit! |
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looking forward the the rear bake getting fitted, i really need to get the bits together and get mine sorted to |
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mintex wrote: | looking forward the the rear bake getting fitted, i really need to get the bits together and get mine sorted to |
Well I'm not entirely sure how to mount up the rear brake at all to be honest with you, I had an idea in my head on how to do it but then when the brake turned up today I found out the master cylinder is threaded and am I correct in thinking not all of them are? I can't remember, but my main issue is the thickness of the footrest mount as it is all one I don't want to just drill into it causing it to weaken. I'll have to wait until I have the other parts before I can mock it all up unfortunately and the wheel still isn't here.
On a lighter note, I looked at the whole unit and wasn't too impressed, it looked like it was crapped up but I thought I best clean it before going on any further. The caliper is pretty damn good, The only issue I had was the piston was seized slightly and the slide was actually stuck, so sprayed some WD-40 onto the slide pins and gave it a minute before tapping it with my rubber mallet and hey presto it was free again. The caliper came with pads and they're nearly new but will replace them on first ride, the piston was pretty damn clean only a few small spots of rust! Belting thought I, but behind the dust seal and the fluid seal there was some light corrosion, again no problem thanks to that little spike set I have.
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I've got an oil leak in exactly the same place on my er, but i've pretty much ignored it until recently (about 2 years) as it's never been picked up on the MOT
I'll be keeping a watch over this to see if you find the source so i can draw inspiration from/copy your fix
Clutch has been rebuilt, so i've ruled that source out, so i reckon it's either the seal on the water pump or the oil pressure testing bolt thingymeyjig ____________________ MBK Nitro 50, Sold. Kawasaki ER-5, Honda ST1100
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I haven't given up on this just yet, but I don't have any funds until September, basically I repaired the water pump seals and gaskets, clutch gasket too while searching for the source of the oil leak which wasn't actually a leak at all really. In the end it turned out that the bike was bone dry of coolant and in fact the oil was coming out of the drain hole in the water pump housing as the lack of coolant caused the oil seal to boil. I had to drain the oil out due to the clutch casing being off so went ahead with a service without thinking about other damage that might of been caused by the overheating of the engine, which is probably melted o rings which seal the liners, warped cylinder head and failed head gasket, I won't know until I pull the engine out the frame and take the head off, but I've been busy with a few other things. I know something is wrong because my fresh oil turned into lovely cream good enough for a decent brew!
Anyway, The plan is to strip my current engine and see what is what, but I need a hydraulic press to get the liners out, which I know of two in separate locations nearby so I'm not really worried.
Quote: | But why not just buy another engine? It will save you a lot of fucking time! |
Well simple really, what do I do with the other engine? It's hard enough getting my stepdad sorted to throw anything in the skip and it would just sit in my garage rusting away, or causing issues If I take the top end off the motor and find that the cams are fucked, cam chain it about to go, loads of corrosion, pitted barrels and damaged pistons then yea, I'll just get another motor as it wouldn't be cost effective. A decent barrel and head with cams and valves will set me back about £50 plus gaskets bringing it to £80 but a second hand motor will be about £50 - £100, ebay is great!
By the time it's road worthy winter will be here so I think I'll just send things to powder coat over winter and get the body work sorted ready for next summer, riding in winter will just cause me a lot of pain as my leg recently has gotten much worse from my last job and I'm unsure of the condition of my said leg until next Thursday of writing this.
To do list
Remove Engine & strip it
Powder coat Wheels, Frame, Swing arm, Fork lowers, Fork yokes
Find replacement side panels, clocks, headlight
Respray body work
Fix the oil leak
Replace rethals (bent)
Fit/Remove mirrors
Replace Lockset (faulty Ignition)
Replace clutch switch (faulty)
General service
Synchronize the Carbs
Service the engine
Service forks
Replace Shocks
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