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Okay, Okay! I'll get on with it! Here's where I've got to.
The shaft holding tool let me tighten up the nut of doom so I could put the bell-housing back on, and put the gearbox back together. But I couldn't do up the input shaft nut. The shaft holding tool would have held the shaft, but I wouldn't have been able to put the socket over the top to do it up; so the shaft had to be locked from the other end of the gearbox... which was how we got it undone; except we now have the turret on the end of the gearbox stopping me hold the shaft with anything, but a new shaft.
So; time to build up the back end, so I can lock the box with the back wheel.
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4292_zps00ecf6d3.jpg
Bevel Box coming off the old swing arm.
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4297_zps18628c68.jpg
Lots of debris left in there!
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4305_zpsd7296d36.jpg
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4306_zps5d6af67c.jpg
Bevel box bolted on new swing arm.
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4309_zps77ae0743.jpg
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4335_zps85e9ac0d.jpg
Bit of chain? grease on the new shaft...
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4336_zps4a376f76.jpg
And fit it to the back of the box.
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4338_zps8a829b31.jpg
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4339_zps4fb917a2.jpg
Bit more on the coupling and splines...
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4343_zps21d95113.jpg
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4348_zpsb27285e5.jpg
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4349_zps17fd42b7.jpg
A-N-D this is where it went wrong... the rubber boot ought to be clipped inside the shaft tunnel on the swing arm with a spring clip, THEN clamped round the gearbox turret when the swing-arm is fitted. But I had no spring-clip. It didn't come with the rubber boot... and, the picture in the book, shows a totally different boot, used on the V50! so how was I to know!
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4354_zps0c2cbbbe.jpg
anyway, worry about that later, go with what we got.
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4356_zps7cb8384a.jpg
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4363_zps3adf2945.jpg
Swing-arm on, and peg in place... you may notice, I had to take the bevel-box back off!
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4364_zpsd37d5d3b.jpg
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4365_zps4a4816d4.jpg
Observe the peg... that little bugger has come back to haunt me!
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4368_zpsb7ed7691.jpg
Coupling back on...
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4369_zpscbbcf257.jpg
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4371_zps61c3ae43.jpg
Bevel box back on... again...
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4373_zps920c0ae9.jpg
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DS2_4365_zps804c3ac0.jpg
Back wheel 'in'
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DS2_4364_zpsc707667d.jpg
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DS2_4367_zps1ef6bad8.jpg
And the transmission can go back under the bike, so I can use the back brake to lock the shafts to do up the input shaft nut.
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DS2_4370_zps728fcb25.jpg
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4375_zps22680dad.jpg
So back brake re-fitted...
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4377_zps0ffdca67.jpg
AND... with a peg spanner on the brake lever, and a couple of pieces of wood through the wheels and swing arm... the input shaft nut can FINALLY be tightened up!
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4378_zps23a79062.jpg
Before I take it all apart... A-Gain! Cos I need to get the swing arm off to fit that ruddy gaiter clip!
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4379_zps7174386c.jpg
Except, remember that peg? well IT decided it didn't want to play ball...
It only went in the day before, and grease was applied to the threads when it went in... NOW it dont want to come out... it was hit with an impact driver, and budged 1/8th of a turn, before it decided to round out!
An old 8mm hex socket was ground to take a packing pin to try and force it to grip... but that rounded too... so we slotted it with drill and dremmel, and tried using the handle of the pin wrench in the slot.... it just bent! This little bugger do NOT want to budge! So... err... well, what else can I do whilst Tef ponders this one?
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4380_zps0593d5a8.jpg
I know... bolt the engine on!
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4381_zps451ab687.jpg
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4388_zps71e7c046.jpg
There we go... err... and that's about it. DID look a bit more bike like... briefly... but then I had to take it to bits again!
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4310_zps7f6b101e.jpg
So looking for 'stuff' to do, I pondered the rusty exhausts.
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https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4315_zps79ae9e22.jpg
And atacked the red-stuff it with wet & dry
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4317_zpse451eb39.jpg
Chrome has completely 'gone' on the back of the silencer, and the metal beneath is badly pitted, but seems thick; so hopefully a bit of heat-proof paint will eek a bit more life out of them.
And that's 'progress' since my last week-end off work.
- The gearbox is now rebuilt, and attached to the engine - note to self; must torque engine bolts.
- Swing Arm peg needs 'sorting', a new peg may be required if it wont come quietly!
- A gaiter spring clip is needed to fit the UJ boot 'properly' Need to try and source that; guzi-bits list it as 'unavailable'.
- Second silencer needs sanding; both need painting. Note to self - order exhaust gaskets.
- brake pads were observed to be rather very 'thin' when caliper refitted; Note to Self; check prices and pennies add to shopping list
- Next Job; attach engine rails and bracketry to transmission; re-fit to bike. THINK I can do that without the swing-arm.. and get it all back in 'sort' of one piece. In fact, might be able to leave UJ gaiter and swing arm peg 'as is' to get it all back together, and then sort those after, if I put the bevel box back on YET again, tempererily!
So SORT of getting there... slowly... when work gives me time off, and I do actually spend it doing stuff twice or thrice over! what the heck... Only June... still got ten weeks till my licence restriction lapses anyway! ____________________ Real bikers build their own Renovated and Riding a 1986 Honda CB125TD-C called the Pup. Full Licence 13/09/2012, 1994 Moto Guzzi 750 Strada
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In view of what happened to the last drive shaft, I trust you will be disassembling that lot and using something a bit more substantial than a squirt of chain lube, before final fitting. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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My eyes burn! Get some more clothes on for the next update.
Good work btw ____________________ (CBT 01/07/11. Theory, 21/05/12. MOD 1, 01/06/12. MOD 2, 3/08/12)
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I have to say, fair play girl
I can only dream of my missus fixing a bike in her skimpies
and Tef, if I dared to post the pics, the next photo would be that swingarm up my arse
good stuff guys ____________________ Past - 1988 honda revere 600, 1996 kawasaki gpz500s, 1999 Yamaha R6
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WORK! Small progress since my last week-end off; work have been taking the piss. I went into the office last Monday , they moaned I was 'signing out' manually, not on my 'phone. I told them I couldn't sign out on my phone as it wasn't charging.. so some-one tested it and called me a liar... I asked how long it should take to charge, "About eight hours!" they said. Hmm, so give me EIGHT fucking hours between rounds to charge the fucker! Maybe even get some SLEEP!.. not that they dont listen, but some-one said "Cant you charge it from a cigarette lighter?"... I actually felt like getting my zippo out, and setting fire to the phone infront of them then saying "Nope! That dont seem to work either!" TWATS! So, where we got with the Guzzi?
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4379_zps7174386c.jpg
Swing-Arm peg, Jammed in the threads not winding in nor out, when we discovered I had to take it off again to fit missing gaiter clip! This needed to be removed. The allen key it should have come out with, failed. The hex rounding. Tef ground some slots into an old allen socket so we could hammer a nail into the crack to try and make it grip... that failed; so we slotted it and tried a tyre lever.
This little bugga would not b-u-d-g-e... so working with wot-I-got....
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4390_zps397453c4.jpg
Boring fiddly little bits; cleaning up the threads on all the engine bolts....
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4392_zps2432eca1.jpg
And put the lower-frame rails back on.
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4396_zpsd9a79ac3.jpg
And hook up the gear-linkage..
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4397_zps5907db28.jpg
On the stand and a jack..
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4399_zps5fb7f457.jpg
And, then drop the bike back on top!
Ugh! Now I HAVE to do something with that ruddy swing-arm peg. So, what can we do?
Well, Tef said 'more brute force'... this failed. Heat had been suggested... Oh-Kay...
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4404_zps3ebc86a3.jpg
Hot-air paint stripper... Look, if we had oxy-ascetalene, this bike would be lava by now!
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4406_zps0e40b430.jpg
So heat AND brute force, then, and... grrrrr! effin thing!
Te-eh-FH!
He pondered the problem for a couple of days, and after leaving him in the back-yard with an old metal fence post and a grinder... I came home to find he had made a 'tool' and was moaning about 'purchase'. I left him rummaging in the old socket box, and he came up with a new 'tool', which aparently had more 'purchase'... Lets see how that worked out shall we?
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4408_zps9eca1a27.jpg
Yeah! With and without heat... Tef's neat little socket, selected to fit snugly over the peg, carefully drilled to take an old allen key, everything ground carefully for this 'purchase' he reckoned we needed...
So, running out of suggestions... time to get brutal...
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4409_zps75c82f9e.jpg
Drill, and Dremel, and a lot of little dremmel stones... Tef did warn me...
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4412_zps7eb47534.jpg
And hollowing out enough metal, and applying enough brute force to it after....
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4413_zps98cbac4f.jpg
Ha! Take that Stubborn Pag! You LOOOSE! Why did you insist we do it the hard way?
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4416_zpsf1f46c15.jpg
So, swing arm off, and 'just' the small worry of whether there are any threads left in it! PHEW. I have to admit I was worried I might have been a little heavy handed, but no. all good.
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4423_zps2d677490.jpg
I had offer of a tap to clean the threads if they were a little damaged, but carefully winding new peg in from the back, then back and forth all good!
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4420_zpsba2923f0.jpg
SO! can put that stupid little clip in the boot!
https://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strada%20Stripdown/DSC_4419_zps0a03362d.jpg
AND try and put it all back together again!
And THAT is sum total of another weekend off.... but having 'rebelled' in the office last week, for some strange reason, they have taken half my shifts off me... so I might have some more time to get something done in the week... even though I probably wont have any money to put petrol in it when its working again! Zero-fucking-hour-contracts = indentured labour = re-legalised slavery, I reckon! Some-one, ANY-ONE! Give me a REAL job, you know, with like, time off, holidays, and 'pay' that's actually more than the rent! ____________________ Real bikers build their own Renovated and Riding a 1986 Honda CB125TD-C called the Pup. Full Licence 13/09/2012, 1994 Moto Guzzi 750 Strada
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Haha teffers you 'ero. Neat feet??? Can't see 'em. Show me the neat feet Mike. Come on. That was way more than a dab.
Anyway nice one donna. Must feel good. Shake down to south wales and bbq now. ____________________ "Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent."
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Fkn brilliant. Well done Snowie She looks & sounds really good (he, sorry).
Did Teffers come back or is he still riding? ____________________ Licence: Nov 2012, Bikes: Suzuki GN125, Moto Guzzi Strada 750, Triumph Sprint ST 955i x 2
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Neat feet mother fucker Well done |
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Posted: 22:58 - 16 Jul 2014 Post subject: |
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get the same thing on my old beemer, thing shakes about all over the place,
then you have the added joy of the swing arm jacking up under hard acceleration (paralever arms dont do this) as the wheel comes up parallel rather than in an arc
well done snowy on all your hard work, ____________________ the humans are dead
I kick arse for the lord
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trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote: | Teflon-Mike wrote: | I had absolutely no idea of the balance when steering, and the thing sort of 'twists' side to side with the torque reaction as you roll on the throttle... weird..
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Sounds like the torque steering needed when riding the old cx500. Guy at last year's bcf bbq who'd worked as a courier explained it to me - said he disliked that about the cx, and it made filtering harder than it should've been. |
CXs were a piece of piss, compared to the older BMW boxers and Guzzis.
I'm not sure Guzzi ever sorted it, but BMW saw sense in about 1982, when they fitted a lighter flywheel and clutch pack; until then, not only did you get pronounced shaft jack up (and fall) as Hmmmnz describes, but you also got torque reaction that caused the bike to drop into corners one way, then sit up going the other.
Imagine riding a bike with an oval rear wheel, that's also several degrees out of alignment with the front, that varies depending on which way you're leaning ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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I`ve only just come to this thread.
ten out of ten Mrs Tiger...... I`m impressed.
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Good going on returning it to the road (surprised at the exhaust note expected more roar I guess from the V-Twin).
That video gave me weird flashbacks of my toddler years watching my dad test riding whatever hack he was working up and down the road whilst neglecting the knackered 4x4 on the lawn. ____________________ Current: 02 FZS 1000 Some Bike Pics...
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Wooohooooooooo I love it.......Got Tef to take the guzzi and i followed on my 125 to the nearest car park for my first ride on the Strada It was great once i got it off the side stand its a little on the tall side,I was a bit tense though but god it pulled my arms out after the Pup
Roll on September ____________________ Real bikers build their own Renovated and Riding a 1986 Honda CB125TD-C called the Pup. Full Licence 13/09/2012, 1994 Moto Guzzi 750 Strada
Can-Do Girl that does spanners TOO!
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