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-Monty-
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speedyboy wrote:

You cannot make judgements on a bike based only on it's spec sheet, but I may make judgements on bike gear based solely on it's price.


Speedyboy wrote:
Next thing you will be saying is its ok to ride in shorts when its hot.


It is ok to ride in shorts when it's hot. The only person you're endangering is yourself, therefore I fail to see the issue.
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shut the fuck up, you fucking faggot.
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Speedyboy
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chalky. wrote:
Shut the fuck up, you fucking faggot.


Love you too Wink
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speedyboy wrote:
Why do you think the likes of Rossi, Mcguiness, Dunlop to name a few wear top line kit? To protect them thats why. I stand to my word if you wear a £10 helmet you have a £10 head.


They do excessive speeds AND get the kit given to them. Many track riders use what they feel fits correctly. My "new" £10 lid fits perfectly Wink

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Next thing you will be saying is its ok to ride in shorts when its hot.


Shorts and tshirt, on an R1, in Spain, at 180+

1 hand too....

https://jordanmoore.co.uk/spain2013/examples/061_m.jpg
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 08 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speedyboy wrote:
The issue is the poor bastard thats got to scrape you up off the tarmac whilst shaking their head. Also the poor bastard that has to treat you in hospital. Then the rest of your family that have to live with the fact that you where to stupid to ride with proper kit.

I dont make judgements on kit purely on price but as any real biker knows you get what you pay for. This goes for level of protection, fit and style. I have got to much pride to ride with shit ill fitting kit.


Just FYI, I wore full gear once and had a major accident. Massive injuries.

I crashed in shorts and tshirt, bit of a scuff, no injuries.

Same speed yo'
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PostPosted: 03:26 - 09 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speedyboy wrote:


Why do you think the likes of Rossi, Mcguiness, Dunlop to name a few wear top line kit? To protect them thats why. I stand to my word if you wear a £10 helmet you have a £10 head.



Oh come off it, money isn't everything. Here's John McGuinness lapping the TT in a goddamn pudding bowl and goggles of all things. An AlpineStars or Dainese logo on that lid isn't going to make a difference besides jacking up the price to high heaven.

https://images.bennetts.co.uk/Global/Bike%20Social/Isle%20of%20Man/JM_Ago_startline_450.jpg

If we were to judge everything by it's price, a numpty on a brand-new YZFR125 could claim to own loads more bike than someone with a second-hand 600 that cost a quarter of the price.

I think you were a bit hasty to pass judgement on the 10 quid helmet. It is actually possible to get good stuff (and I mean proper stuff that is good where it counts a.k.a. SHARP ratings, not stuff that has a fancy logo and the support of a big marketing budget and celebrity endorsement) if your attitude was that of making the most of your money.

You need to see beyond the illusion! Sellers can mark anything up, but it's the idiots, who fall for it and pay top dollar and then either through ignorance or self-consolation believe that they actually didn't get the short end of the stick simply because they paid so much, are the ones that keep the whole circus going.
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PostPosted: 07:00 - 09 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

deadwolf wrote:
Speedyboy wrote:


Why do you think the likes of Rossi, Mcguiness, Dunlop to name a few wear top line kit? To protect them thats why. I stand to my word if you wear a £10 helmet you have a £10 head.



Oh come off it, money isn't everything. Here's John McGuinness lapping the TT in a goddamn pudding bowl and goggles of all things. An AlpineStars or Dainese logo on that lid isn't going to make a difference besides jacking up the price to high heaven.

https://images.bennetts.co.uk/Global/Bike%20Social/Isle%20of%20Man/JM_Ago_startline_450.jpg

If we were to judge everything by it's price, a numpty on a brand-new YZFR125 could claim to own loads more bike than someone with a second-hand 600 that cost a quarter of the price.

I think you were a bit hasty to pass judgement on the 10 quid helmet. It is actually possible to get good stuff (and I mean proper stuff that is good where it counts a.k.a. SHARP ratings, not stuff that has a fancy logo and the support of a big marketing budget and celebrity endorsement) if your attitude was that of making the most of your money.

You need to see beyond the illusion! Sellers can mark anything up, but it's the idiots, who fall for it and pay top dollar and then either through ignorance or self-consolation believe that they actually didn't get the short end of the stick simply because they paid so much, are the ones that keep the whole circus going.


McGuinness is taking a massive risk here, to stay with the "classic" look. That's his call. If he came off, almost definitely his head would be mashed up!

Paddy is right though, if his £10 helmet scores highly in safety ratings then it's safe. The price shouldn't matter.

I'll sell anyone my lid for £5000 if it'll make em feel safer! Wink

EDIT: Like the little Ninja BTW. Probably a bit small for my gangly frame but still looks good.
If the OP doesn't need to sprint off the line its fine.
Someone has almost always got a faster bike than you, or will take more risks etc so who needs a race bike to go to work on? Or wind round the country roads at the weekend.

Enjoy it mate!
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 09 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im confused why you would think that cost of purchase is more important than SHARP rating when it comes to measuring helmet safety.

Does this make you more interested in brands than functionality.

I use an iphone 5s, not a cheaper nokia as my fingers are important to me. It's higher cost means it must be better for my fingers
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 09 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speedyboy wrote:

I dont make judgements on kit purely on price

That's exactly what you are doing. Pay £300+ for a branded sticker with the same protection as a £30 helmet, see if anyone cares.

It's paddys head and he can do whatever he wants with it, if that includes fellating a penis then fair play to the lad
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 09 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure when it detoured to the lid judging contest, but I'll throw mine into the ring (not literally, probably render it unsafe...)

I had a BOX helmet, pretty good lid. Then I got a SHARK one, about double the price, better construction and crucially it doesn't steam up. At all. The BOX one did on a regular basis. So to me there is merit in spending more on a lid. SHARK one looks sharper too, FWIW.
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 09 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

ridelikeasaint wrote:
Not sure when it detoured to the lid judging contest, but I'll throw mine into the ring (not literally, probably render it unsafe...)

I had a BOX helmet, pretty good lid. Then I got a SHARK one, about double the price, better construction and crucially it doesn't steam up. At all. The BOX one did on a regular basis. So to me there is merit in spending more on a lid. SHARK one looks sharper too, FWIW.

Same, shark one is still in use atm, last one the strap broke after a couple of months.

Also internal sunvisor, better antifogging and venting, win win
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PostPosted: 09:46 - 10 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went from a £30 Box BX-2 that misted all the time to a £120 Shark S900, no misting (best lid for anti-fog IMO), quieter plus internal sun visor.

Conversely though I got a £330 HJC R-PHA 10 and that misted up like a bitch, was loud as hell and the visor mechanism requires two hands near enough to open, hated it and I would rate the Box lid for being a better lid (even on the Sharp ratings the Box is 4 star whilst the HJC is 3!).

Went back to Shark after that with a new S900 so I would rate them from best to worst as Shark -> Box -> HJC, price tag isn't everything.

*I do accept the HJC is meant for use on track hence being a bit lacking for road use but even on the track I couldn't stand it, prefer comfort and ease of use the Shark offers*
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PostPosted: 01:10 - 13 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the 250 looking like a lot of fun on a go-kart track...

https://youtu.be/GKDN3okg4ko
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PostPosted: 08:44 - 13 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

backing paddy up with the cheap lid thing

just bought a lid that was £25 quid

conforms to the standards and fits me bonce

i ride at 70 mph with it and havnt died yet Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:01 - 13 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Realistically you don't need any gear or even a helmet at all if you don't crash.

I'm still working on that bit Wink
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 13 Jul 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speedyboy wrote:
where to stupid


Home James, and don't spare the gas
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