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| gavcarter wrote: | The outcome will be alot more than 10mm , I would expect 40-50mm at the wheel.....
Easiest way to see is to leave the engine / frame supported in the middle as you have in the pictures, pop back wheel in and original shock on ONE BOLT, then lower the swingarm so the bolt holes in the swingarm are 10mm below the ones in the shock.
Tie it with a bit of string / wire etc so you can stand back and look.
Bit fiddly not very accurate - but you could make a guess...
I made my brother some dogbones for his fj1200, 15mm longer than original and it came out as over a 2" drop on the back end, we worked it out as below....
To come up with a measurement you will need:
A straight edge as long as the swingarm,
A large piece of paper / card
or some felt tips and a clean kitchen worktop ( and a need to do some serious grovelling later if they don't wash off)
Tape Measure
Draw a straight line the same length as the swingarm, pivot to axle
( measure from the centre of rear axle - to centre of swingarm pivot bolt )
(black line on paint diagram)
Now measure from the centre of swingarm pivot bolt to the centre of the lower bolt on the shock absorber ( where it joins the swingarm )
Go back to your card and transfer this measurement with a "X", dot, or perpendicular line etc. (X on paint piccy)
If you put a straight edge back over your original line and rotate it from the swingarm pivot end, you can measure the distance at point "X" ( blue line in paint diagram )to be the difference between shocks, in your case 10mm BELOW your original line. I went up over in paint piccy as I started near bottom of page  this would be a shorter shock
Then draw along the straight edge, or at least mark a point them same length as your first line ( the distance between the swingarm pivot and the rear axle) and you can measure between this point and the original point and see how much drop / raise you will get....
(yellow line on paint pic)
Hopefully you can understand this with the help of my ultra hi-tech 3d computer imagery (shite paint pic)  |
Okay, thanks for that!  Very useful information! 
Think I will have a basic mock up of it tomorrow and see roughly how it would look to start with.
Obviously it would end up jacked up at the back to some extent with that shock on and I don't really have a concern about that aesthetically (unless it was excessive) but would it create any other problems - with the chain for example?
Not done any kind of modification like that on a bike before so it's all rather unknown territory for me |
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| Posted: 13:51 - 10 Sep 2014 Post subject: |
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How does this look?
I just realised I'd forgotten to fit the chain guard on the swinging arm so that's gonna have to come back off anyway I used a plastic bag to improvise
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/IMG_4790_zps8a74e35a.jpg
To be honest, now the chain is on I'm feeling pretty confident about it. I don't think there will be any issues with the chain at least and I'm warming to the idea of it being raised at the back... might fit me a bit better 
Just snapped an RS2 Matrix shock for £35 posted so the build resumes  |
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| Posted: 13:54 - 10 Sep 2014 Post subject: |
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WAAYY to slack lol
Is the chain resting on the frame at the bottom? - Just behind rear engine mount...
This is the part where clearance can be an issue, pull back wheel back a bit to get somewhere near normal running tension and see if it lifts off the frame.... |
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lol I know its slack, everything is precariously resting in place! I've not even got the spacers on the back wheel!
It doesn't rest on the frame, it did at first and in a big way... and I panicked a bit Tried the 255mm and it was still resting on the frame... then I remembered there is a roller that sits behind the gear lever I loosely put that in place and all looks fine, not an awful lot of difference between the two |
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| gavcarter wrote: | | Just_James wrote: | lol I know its slack, everything is precariously resting in place! I've not even got the spacers on the back wheel!
It doesn't rest on the frame, it did at first and in a big way... and I panicked a bit Tried the 255mm and it was still resting on the frame... then I remembered there is a roller that sits behind the gear lever I loosely put that in place and all looks fine, not an awful lot of difference between the two |
Should be fine then, I can see it was sitting on something from the pic, wasn't sure if it was the frame or not, not familiar with bike so didn't know they had a roller fitted.
The roller will help the chain accept a dinner plate sized rear sprocket too - if it wheelies in 1st / 2nd add £300 to the price if buyer is under 17 
Its all looking good waiting for more updates now haha
I spent ages painting my frame all glossy and nice only to scratch the f*** out of it putting the tank on! Drape tea towels over the frame when fitting tank and slide them out afterwards - I wish i did lol |
Will probably have a play around with gearing once it's on the road but the new sprockets are stock which I figured would be the best starting place. I only had a brief ride of it before I started pulling it in bits but I have to say... I was very surprised with it and it put a smile on my face!
I must admit, even just seeing a few bits loosely back on it again, and with the sun shining, I'm itching to get out on it!
Shouldn't be a problem with scratching the frame with the tank, it just slots in at the front and then single bolt at the back - it's effectively fitted in the pic, I'd only have to put the bolt in.
I will be along with the next update soon but now I'm satisfied I've got a half decent chance with a replacement shock... I need to stop messing with the bike and get some work done! |
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Hi, to repair the front mudguard I used much the same method as repairing the hugger. I first got the basic shape with fibreglass bridging compound then skimmed with chemical metal to shape and also reinforce the underside. I didn't try to salvage the holes, just filled the whole area then redrilled the holes once it was all hardened.
Pretty much any plastics can be repaired even when you've got fairly substantial bits missing. It's no dark art either, just takes a little patience more than anything.
A good tip when using fibreglass is to, once you've applied it, put some 2" masking tape over your repair and smooth to the shape you want, you can then just peel it off while the fibreglass is still tacky (but not straight away). Not only does this give you your basic shape but it saves a lot of sanding later, fibreglass is no fun to sand especially if you're doing it by hand!
It's not the best example but I did this when repairing the hugger
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/DPP_0726_zps6b23f45a.jpg |
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Progress has been a little slow lately. I got the RS2 rear shock but wasn't too happy with it, it was rubbing on the air box which wasn't a major issue in itself but it turned out that although it has an adjuster ring, you can't take the spring out. Wanted to be able to powder coat the spring etc so wasn't happy with it and put to one side.
I found a good original RS1 shock so picked that up, just needs a little tidying then that can go on. Feel a bit better about it being the right one for the bike too.
Once the rear shock is on it's a bit of a milestone really as next job will be to paint the wheels and get it sat back on them. From there, there shouldn't be an awful lot left to do.
Wiring loom is now fitted but as yet, not tested.
Have been trying to sort out my decal dilemma as until that was sorted everything was on hold really as it determined what colour/s the bike was going to be.
As it stands, I'm sticking to my plan of the bike going back to factory colours (mostly) and decals. I have all the graphics for the decals as such...
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/DPP_0710_zps58292abd.jpg
I also have the headlight surround decal which is not pictured there.
What I'm basically missing are the "RIEJU" decals for tank and lower fairing. I have the one which is pictured in the middle there but am going to have to get 4 new ones made up. Can anyone point me in the right direction of where I could get these made without paying silly money? |
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Well a little update but its more an update of the situation of the project.
Not had time to do any more with the bike over the past week as I've been away at annual meet for the L200 owners club. Got back late last night, work this morning then within an hour of being home I've had someone come and leave a deposit on the MR2 ....  .....  ....  .....  ......
Will be a shame to see it go but it means by Wednesday I will have my garage to move the project into ... also means I have a little cash to play with to buy another bike. Happy days!
Incidentally, the guy whos buying the MR2 collects and restores classic cars and bikes, he turned up on this....
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/DPP_0735_zps25846f96.jpg
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Well it's looking like the RS1 build is going to be stalled a little.
The MR2 went on Wednesday so although I can now move the project into the comfort of the garage, I want to spend a little time kitting the garage out with a workbench, vice, pillar drill, welder etc etc . Also got an extraction unit to go in so I can spray in there. It's gonna be a proper man cave
Also... with having an empty space in the garage for a full day and with some cash burning a hole in my pocket.... I found myself picking this up today......
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/IMG00160-20141002-1804_zps1c8a648a.jpg
(the bike! not dog or child!)
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| CBFcarl wrote: | It's almost like the dog is saying "Finish the Rieju first!"
Having said that, the project is coming on nicely, looks cracking and you are putting time, effort (and money) into doing it properly. The new bike looks very nice too. Good work, fella. |
Cheers mate
Funnily enough, when the missus got home, she had a VERY similar expression on her face but saying.... "you bought another what?? "
I'm always happy to displease her 
The RS1 will get finished before I start stripping the new bike down (if I can resist the temptation!) but just want to get the garage properly sorted before I start work on it again. Pretty much at a point where I need to start spraying wheels, fairing etc so makes sense to get my extraction system in before I do anymore
The new one is an RS2 50cc, just couldn't resist another little bike project!
It's done less than 8000 miles and is MOTd, rode 17 miles back to my house without a problem, it's just been dropped down the road a couple of times so PLENTY of repairs to the fairing etc to be done. Picked it up for £430 on an 08 plate, will make a nice bike
I just need an RS3 to complete my collection now |
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Well there's been a big stall with this build due to kitting out the man cave, accidentally buying 2 other project bikes etc... but I'm finally back on with it!!
Temptation was to get stuck in with the Mito but am resisting and plan to get the RS1 finished in the next few weeks. I need to be using this bike or moving it on.
So plan is to spray the wheels in the next couple of days, they are prepped and ready and I just picked up the basecoat yesterday.
As I'll want them going straight back on the bike I decided tonight to start cleaning up the spindles and a few other bits and pieces so they are ready.
Have recently invested in a blast cabinet and have been having a play with DIY zinc plating so put these to use.
Here's the front spindle and rear adjusters before I start cleaning them up
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/DPP1006_zps6f869307.jpg
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/DPP1007_zps822d1ce4.jpg
Then after blasting with crushed glass
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/DPP1009_zpsd616e149.jpg
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/DPP1008_zpsd8279318.jpg
Bits in the plating bath
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/DPP1010_zps67d17aae.jpg
And the bits zinc plated
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/DPP1011_zps4dcee03e.jpg
Not perfect but really happy with the results for very little effort
Still got the rear spindle to do and may do the brake discs too then will get on with spraying the wheels.
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Okay so got a few more bits done this weekend in preparation for getting the bike back on its wheels and mobile again.
Firstly, got the rear spindle and spacers etc cleaned up and zinc plated
Before
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/DPP1011b_zpsfd105635.jpg
After
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/DPP1012_zps4963c2a1.jpg
Could do with replacing the nuts as they are really chewed up but at least are tidied and rust free for now.
Also wanted to give the brake calipers and cylinders a tidy up so set to getting them stripped and cleaned.
They're not in too bad a shape but have been sprayed black at some point and I just want give them a general tidy up.
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/DPP1019_zpsc1219bde.jpg
I realise I've not bought new bolts for the calipers though so they will have to be cleaned and zinc plated (yes, everythings getting plated at the moment as it's still all very novel!).... and at that point my OCD kicked in!
The banjo bolts and hose ends etc are also really grotty... and I can't put them back on like that
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/DPP1018_zps515d786e.jpg
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/DPP1020_zpsf1e3b978.jpg
So they get cleaned and plated along with the bolts
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/DPP1024_zps0495f20f.jpg
So then resprayed the cylinders and fitted new brake lever, had to give the lever a coat of clear as it was a matt finish which didn't match the clutch lever that I'd resprayed gloss
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/DPP1027_zps0c03d766.jpg
Sprayed the calipers to match, I'm not clear coating these or the cylinders as I don't want a high gloss finish on them
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/DPP1026_zps4d471cea.jpg
Next thing was the brake pads....
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/DPP1022_zpsaecf0687.jpg
Now I haven't ordered new pads as yet as I still haven't located a new front disc (one I have is goosed) so these, as much as I hate a bodge, will have to go back in for the time being... but not like that!
So a quick tidy up with the blaster
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/DPP1023_zpsb39052db.jpg
Then as anyone who is anyone knows.... gold is to brake pads what red is to a power band so...
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/DPP1028_zps96ca33cd.jpg
Should have some serious stopping power now!
Finally, everything back together and ready for fitting to the bike
https://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/RS1Rebuild/DPP1029_zpsb6133f8e.jpg
Plan is to spray the wheels tomorrow and should really be making progress then. Hoping to put this through an MOT in the next few weeks.
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