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Davetom500
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PostPosted: 08:09 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: '26 Sunbeam Model 6 'Longstroke' Reply with quote

Just rebuilt the engine and box, bought it last summer and it hasn't been on the road since 1952. This Model was the last sidevalve to win the TT ('22), it'll do 65-70 but it's happiest at 45-50
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PostPosted: 08:12 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks awesome. Any more pictures/info from the build?
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PostPosted: 09:12 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The crank was rebuilt by Alpha, the mainshafts are riveted into the flywheels and they had moved over time causing ovality. New mainshafts were turned and hardened, then riveted back in. The big end had also moved in the flywheels so an oversized big end was made, the crank was jig bored true, and the big end fitted. I found an old VW piston that was an 80 thou oversize so that was adapted and fitted. The carb is an AMAC ( pre Amal) TT, which us basically a needleless racing carb from the 20's. Vintage carb expert Martyn Bratby converted it so it uses needles and jets from Amal Concentrics, making tuning a lot easier
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

AMAC TT 25
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Subframe's bent......oh wait!

Joking aside, that's a little beauty. It'd be great to hear that it was back on the road after half a century of lay-up.

Did you do anything to prevent similar wear again in the crank assembly?
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool as penguin piss. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Max at Alpha reckons the crank will outlive me ( I'm 45).! Hopefully with modern materials and being a one off build compared to production line tolerances, it should stay together. It won't get as much abuse as it probably got for the first 20 yrs of its life, though I do like to use it as it's maker intended..😄
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's just lovely Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful piece of machinery. Smile

Might be a stupid one but, how fast does it actually go?
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've clocked 60 on my phone, it's barely done 1000miles since rebuild though, I got it on the road at the end of May. I did the Banbury Run and also last weeks ' Levis Cup Trial' , which is a 100 mile road trial. It should do 65-70 without a problem, and with different cams and no silencer 75-80, although I won't be trying that as at 79x105 bore and stroke, it's not really meant to be revved to death !
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought I would link up all the photos for you just to make things easier for people to see.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/download.php?id=93835

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Lovely bike you have there. I've only ever seen the Sunbeam S7 and S8 so this is a nice treat.
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Sickpup..
Pre '37 Sunbeams are known as Marston Sunbeams after John Marston, the founder. In '37, they were bought out by AMC, then Bsa in '43. There are different owners clubs for Marston and non Marston 'beams. They were considered by many to be more of a 'Rolls Royce' of motorcycling than Brough Superiors, because Sunbeam made virtually everything in-house. Every Marston Sunbeam that left the factory had the tank lined in Gold leaf
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a nice bike.
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

got any more pictures of the engine internals?
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

CHR15 wrote:
got any more pictures of the engine internals?


NO! Mr CHR15 , you cannot put a turbo on it! Wink
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Timing Chest..Basically inlet and exh cams, with followers sat on top, then push rods on top of that, going through housing to tappets under the valves... Apologies they're a bit low res, struggling with resizing a bit !
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

One piece head and barrel. Barrel is a blind hole- watch your local reborers eyes roll when you show them that..😀
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Primary side.. Clutch has 4 solid steel plates, and 4 containing 44 7/16" dia cork inserts each
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clutch plates.. Had them recorked for a tenner a plate by some retired old guy in the Sunbeam club..bargain!
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last pic.. This is on the entrance drive to Umberslade Hall in Warwickshire, known as Slumberglade Hall when Bsa and Triumph used it as their Research and ( lack of ) Development, from about 67-71
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is some novelty shit right there, not my type at all but that is superb Shocked
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 07 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a bit out of touch, is ' Novelty shit' a complement ?😊
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 08 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davetom500 wrote:
I'm a bit out of touch, is ' Novelty shit' a complement ?😊



i believe it is, but that is a lovely, lovely bike. not something I'd ride but something I can definitely admire. thanks for sharing!
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 08 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread should be 18+. So much bike porn here. Smile
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 08 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davetom500 wrote:
The crank was rebuilt by Alpha


Don't use it, it aint safe. Wink
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